On 4/28/15 11:35 AM, John Levine wrote:
>> Are we going to say "The big four email providers pushed their problems onto
>> everyone else" ?
> Yes, of course.  But as we've seen, we have little ability to push
> back.

Dear John,

Standing up to abusive domains requires a fallback policy
compatible with SMTP.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-otis-dmarc-escape-01

Describes a safer and SMTP compatible policy as "Public". 
By ignoring the role of Sender DMARC is not compatible with
SMTP which leads to dangerous practices when handling email
exchanges serving the general public.  Hacks aimed at
transforming the From header into playing this role, such as
the dubious double signing or proposed reversible
transformation are solutions making the problem worse.

Why make the source of a message more confusing?  A role
clearly defined by the Sender header field when present.

The efficiency hack used by DMARC for applying policy
against transactional messaging fails badly when misapplied
against mediated and valid third-party services.

Regards,
Douglas Otis

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