(Putting Murray on explicit CC to alert him to the openarc points.)

> AFAIK, Steve Jones has been in touch with the hackathon
> organizers to have ARC added to the slate. Both Steve and I will be coming
> to Prague and several others from the group are expected as well.

There is an ARC project listed in the Hackathon wiki
<https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/99hackathon>, with
Steve listed as the project champion.  But neither Steve nor Kurt are
registered for the Hackathon, and neither is anyone else claiming
"ARC" as a project they're interested in.  Will openarc be part of the
Hackathon ARC project?

Anyone who wants to work on this at the Hackathon, please register
(free) for the hackathon
<https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf99/hackathonregistration.py>...
sooner is better, so we can track who's participating.

> From my POV, the ARC spec is close to "done". There are a few details that
> are turning up from new sets of eyes looking at it as implementations are
> built but so far, nothing substantive. I'll have new versions after my
> flights at the end of the week (protocol & usage).

If there *are* substantive issues that need discussion, please collect
them and post them here so we can make up an agenda.

> To me, the biggest point of discussion has to do with the hypothetical next
> milestone for the group which is currently called out as "document[ing]
> operational practices..." (the _Draft Guide on DMARC Usage_). While I
> understand that was viewed as "something that we could do" when the group
> was chartered, I doubt the need for it as an IETF document as time has
> passed. I think that discussing the next steps of the group would be apropos
> in a F2F meeting.

This seems like fodder for a short meeting -- 30 minutes, rather than
even one hour.  I'm happy to request only a 30-minute slot, but let's
see what we really need.  And keep in mind that even if we need to
discuss the next steps, we haven't done that on the list yet, so we
don't know that we need face time for it.

For example, do we need time to bat around possible issues with ARC
that could cause deployment concerns (will senders who want DMARC
protection be willing to allow mailing lists to take that over with
ARC?) or deployment problems that might be different from, but as
severe as, the ones DMARC caused?  Or are those issues settled to the
point where there's not a need to discuss them?  Is the openarc
project in a state where it would be useful to discuss it?

Peter Goldstein's note asking for a meeting in Prague brought up the
"next steps" discussion and also noted that it would be useful to have
contact between the DMARC people and the DCRUP people.  I'll note that
DCRUP will have a session in Prague whether or not we do, and the
crypto issues are probably better discussed there than here for now.
Fallout from it that affects ARC will have to be dealt with after
that.

Barry

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