On 11/29/2017 12:17 PM, Kurt Andersen (b) wrote:

While I have a number of issues with the details of the proposal, I'll
tackle those in another thread. The fundamental problem that I have
with the whole "experiment" approach is that it is something like
throwing a baseball into a pool of quiescent sharks. I have no
confidence that "hoping" for people to do something that a random
group of people propose in an RFC will bear any fruit at all. It's not
an experiment, it's an exercise in futility.

Hi Ken,

The MARID experiment between SPF and SENDERID worked with random groups of people in the community/industry/market. The "better protocol" eventually prevailed. So it us possible this experimental approach for ARC is doable, albeit it will take a long time.

However, it was pretty clear that SPF/SenderID offered a strong proof of concept. It was pretty solid what the intent was, how it was going to work, and it was easy to implement. With ARC, we don't have such comfort, in my opinion. Making it a proposed standard isn't going to increase its endorsement when it lacks technical merit.

Where does ARC fit in the DKIM Service Architecture, RFC5585?
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5585#section-5

How does it fit with basic "DKIM Author Domain" policy model, in this case DMARC? That isn't clear and until then, I'm afraid it will be left in limbo.

--
HLS


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