On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:45 PM John Levine <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]> you write:
> >In article <
> caj4xoyecbh4ycofhzmv+a0336aifx55blvsdh-u21kkj+gr...@mail.gmail.com> you
> write:
> >>B) Specifying the specific Intermediary in the Intermediary Field. This
> >>would indicate that the users domain recognizes that the user uses the
> >>intermediary and by policy exempts this use even though it breaks both
> DKIM
> >>and SPF validation. The receiving domain would need to recognize some
> >>potential risk of malicious modifications or additions to the message.
> >
> >Sounds like what I proposed several years ago:
> >
> >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-levine-dkim-conditional-03
>
> Mike clarified that his suggestion is simpler in that the recipient
> can recognize that intermediary however it wants, not necessarily with
> a DKIM signature.
>
> This makes me wonder how many mailing lists still don't add DKIM
> signatures. Unlike the header rewriting hacks, they don't affect the
> way recipients see or handle the mail in their inboxes.
>

DKIM signing would certainly make it easier for receivers but I'm hesitant
to try and mandate it  for intermediaries. The 2nd signature from the
originator is a good indicator and depending on which additional fields are
signed should provide reasonable protection against replay attacks.

Michael Hammer
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