On 12/30/20 8:22 AM, Dotzero wrote:

    DMARC != Auth-res. Auth-res provides all kinds of useful
    information than just pass/fail. For DMARC Auth-res should provide
    what the policy was at a bare minimum. But none of this seems to
    have any normative language anywhere which is a problem unto
    itself. DMARC in auth-res seems to be an orphan.

    Mike


You just stated the case as to why this discussion should be ruled out of scope.  " DMARC != Auth-res." and " DMARC in auth-res seems to be an orphan"

This is the IETF DMARC working group, not the AUTH-RES working group. You gave the example of someone writing a crappy Thunderbird extension as a reason for the working group to change its focus. Perhaps getting the extension author to fix their extension might be a more fruitful effort.


Because the author *can't* fix their extension for the 100th time. There is no normative mechanism for transporting the DMARC state in the auth-res header. And if the working group is not willing to do its part for auth res, then auth-res should just be moved to historic since there is nobody to maintain it, and no place to discuss its shortcomings. Requiring every downstream MTA and MUA to do DMARC policy checks would be a mess and *that* is most certainly in scope as scaling is an internet issue.

Mike

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