I don't understand your user experience argument, because the proposed UX
would be very different from the current UX.   Nor do I think that security
should be compromised for user convenience.  But I am ready to withdraw the
proposal.

The substantive argument is the problem of trust in list operators.   My
proposal made list infrastructure significantly more complex, and allowed
list operators to intercept member-to-member communication.   This creates
an incentive for nation-state intelligence agencies and big tech privacy
violators to move into management of lists.    I underestimated that risk,
and it creates a veto.

Doug foster




On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 12:30 AM Scott Kitterman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> If we were the voting sort, my vote would be "rewriting from is a horrible
> hack that destroys UX".  That should be sufficient information.
>
> Scott K
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