On 2021-12-05 20:40, John Levine wrote:
It appears that Scott Kitterman  <[email protected]> said:
How about if it has a null MX and a DMARC record or DKIM keys? Remember
that those records are at different names than the MX. ...
There's two ways we could go at this question:

1. A domain that, except for the null mx, would fit the criteria for non- existent. This would be kind of weird, since mull mx only makes sense if you have an A/AAAA, but I wouldn't think existence of a null mx alone would be
enough to make the domain 'exist'.

2. A domain which has an A/AAAA and null mx. Since it claims to be a no mail domain, we could treat it as not existing for DMARC purposes. Since RFC 7505 specifies null mx is for domains that don't accept mail, but is silent on
sending mail, these should probably exist for DMARC purposes.

I think that your point is about #2 and I agree. #1 is definitely a corner case, but if the only thing there is a null mx, I'd be quite comfortable
saying it doesn't exist.

It's about both. What if a domain has a null MX and a DMARC record? Maybe it
has an SPF record, too.

For your #2 you seem to be saying that if I send no-reply transactional mail,
my DNS would look like this:

notifiy.bigcorp.com. IN MX 0 .   /* we don't receive replies /*
   IN A 0.0.0.0                  /* make the domain exist */
_dmarc.notify.bigcorp.com. IN TXT "v=DMARC1; p=reject; ..." /* it's
all aligned */
s._domainkey.notify.bigcorp.com. IN TXT "v=DKIM1; h=sha256;
p=MIIBIjANB..." /* it's signed */

thanks for another rule to mx check in mta stage

hopefully any-ip is just an example, not a real world test

should spf allow 0.0.0.0/0 ?, sadly it does

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