Thanks Scott. _dmarc.police.uk doesn't seem to have the 'np' tag. There are a number of domains with policies that have 'p=quarantine|reject sp=none' - it would be good to see if 'np=reject' is added to any.
tim On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 6:50 PM Scott Kitterman <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 5:44:46 PM EST Barry Leiba wrote: > > > Scott, I have many problems with your response. Was it intended as > an > > > ad hominem? It certainly came across that way. > > > > It doesn't seem even remotely so to me. Please be careful with > > attributing intent. No one tried to say that we shouldn't listen to > > you. > > > > > If the NP objective can be stated in a sentence or two, you should have > > > done so, instead of telling me to read years of archive. An objective > > > that cannot be explained tersely is not sufficiently defined. > > > > It *is* reasonable to expect you to review earlier discussions, rather > > than to ask the working group to revisit them without a sense of how > > you're adding new information. > > Thanks. Yes, that was my intent. > > To give a short summary, in the interests of moving forward: > > The domain owner publishing the DMARC record knows and controls what > exists > and what doesn't. They don't have to guess. The question was, > particularly > in the context of PSD, but not exclusively, would record publishers find > it > useful to be able to publish a different (and presumably more strict) > policy > for non-existent domains. More p=reject equals more bad stuff not getting > delivered. > > I think we can say it's an pretty unqualified yes in the PSD realm: > > $ dig +short txt _dmarc.gov > "v=DMARC1; p=reject; sp=none; np=reject; rua=mailto: > [email protected]" > > $ dig +short txt _dmarc.mil > "v=DMARC1; p=reject; sp=none; np=reject; rua=mailto:[email protected] > " > > $ dig +short txt _dmarc.gov.uk > "v=DMARC1;p=reject;sp=none;np=reject;adkim=s;aspf=s;fo=1;rua=mailto:dmarc- > [email protected]" > > $ dig +short txt _dmarc.police.uk > "v=DMARC1;p=none;sp=none;adkim=s;aspf=s;fo=1;rua=mailto:dmarc- > [email protected];ruf=mailto:[email protected]" > > All of the current PSDs that have published records with any policy other > than > none have different sp= and np= policies. > > Scott K > > > _______________________________________________ > dmarc mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc >
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