On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 9:58 PM Douglas Foster <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, this is important stuff.
>
> This is one of my problem scenarios:
>
> A record arrives at the first hop and obtains DMARC PASS, based on SPF
> and/or DKIM interpreted by a DMARC policy.  Based on DMARC PASS, the
> RFC5322.From address is confidently judged to be "Honestly identified"
>  DMARC checks SPF and DKIM, but not MX or A/AAAA.
>
> But then it is forwarded and loses its credentials during forwarding.
>
> On reception, because of DMARC FAIL, it is tested against NP.    NP checks
> MX and A/AAAA but does not check SPF or DKIM.   The message fails this test
> and is confidently judged to be "Fraudulently identified".
>

The nearest thing I can imagine that would cause this is a From of "
[email protected]" when that domain advertises a public key that verifies the
message, so it has a TXT at "selector._domainkey.example.com", but has no
MX, A, or AAAA for "example.com".  On relay, a mutation causes the
signature validation to fail at the final recipient.

Are you seeing cases like this?

-MSK
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