On December 17, 2021 11:26:38 PM UTC, Douglas Foster <dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote: .. >A year after raising my concerns, I am still trying to get a collaborative >discussion started about what the optimal test looks like. In a >collaborative discussion, those who are happy with the status quo convince >the skeptics to come on board, listen to their concerns, acknowledge them, >and do what they can to accommodate those concerns so that consensus can be >achieved. I am willing to be convinced, but I am skeptical and I am >looking for some collaboration. > It may be that this is a cultural issue then. In the IETF, where there is an established consensus (rough or not), the burden is on those seeking to overturn the consensus to convince people. If you think about it, if a working group were obligated to rehash things whenever new people show up, it would be difficult to accomplish anything in an open environment where new people can show up anytime. I suspect you might have more luck if you first consulted Chesterton's Fence. I think you'd have more luck with questions about why things are the way they are than immediate assertions that they are wrong. Scott K P.S. At least as I understand it. I'm relatively new too. _______________________________________________ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existence Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existe... Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existe... Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existe... Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existe... Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existe... Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existe... Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existe... Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existe... Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 3.2.6 The meaning of non-existe... Tim Wicinski
- [dmarc-ietf] IETF Process/Culture was Re: 3.2.6 ... Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Process/Culture was Re: 3.... Douglas Foster
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- Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Process/Culture was Re: 3.... Phillip Hallam-Baker
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- Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Process/Culture was Re: 3.... Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Process/Culture was Re: 3.... Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Process/Culture was Re: 3.... Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Process/Culture was Re: 3.... Douglas Foster
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