Folks,

The current draft has this text concerning Organizational Domain:


        3.2.7.
        
<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-04.html#section-3.2.7>Organizational
        Domain
        
<https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-04.html#name-organizational-domain>


The Organizational Domain is typically a domain that was registered with a domain name registrar. More formally, it is any Public Suffix Domain plus one label. The Organizational Domain for the domain in the RFC5322.From domain is determined by applying the algorithm found in Section 4.6 <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbis-04.html#determining-the-organizational-domain>.


I believe the text is not adequately helpful, in terms of DMARC's history, and especially not helpful in the move towards supporting (at least) two very different methods of finding it.  I understand the desire to declare The One True mechanism, but I will claim it is too late for that.  Also, I think the term continues to be useful...

Here is some alternative phrasing:

   For DMARC, an Organizational Domain can contain a DMARC record, to
   be used as the default DMARC record for subordinate domains that do
   not have a DMARC record of their own, and for subordinate domains
   that do not exist.

This is text about the what, rather than the how.  It defines DMARC-relevant semantics, without saying anything about the mechanics of finding it.


In that light, I'll renew my strong suggestion, from back in the days of PSD development, that this core DMARC document NOT contain details or sections devoted to PSD, in the style now shown in the current sections 3.2.8 - 3.2.10

Rather, I suggest adding an additional sentence to the alternative phrasing, above:

   The method of finding an Organizational Domain is outside the scope
   of this specification.  Examples of such methods include the Public
   Suffice Domain (PSD) [RFC9091] and Public Suffix List
   [http://publicsuffix.org].

I think this gives an adequate nod to established and new practice, without emphasizing either or the excluding the possibility of other methods.

d/

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