On March 21, 2022 5:42:42 PM UTC, Alessandro Vesely <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon 21/Mar/2022 17:46:43 +0100 John R Levine wrote:
>> 
>>> After thinking once more, it should be:
>>>
>>> _dmarc.a.users.scale.virtualcloud.com.br v=DMARC1 (possibly)
>>> _dmarc.users.scale.virtualcloud.com.br   v=DMARC1; psd=y
>>> _dmarc.scale.virtualcloud.com.br         NO DATA
>>> _dmarc.virtualcloud.com.br               v=DMARC1
>> And maybe
>>   _dmarc.com.br                             v=DMARC1; psd=y
>> 
>>> Maybe it's me, but it doesn't look straightforward at all.
>> 
>> It's straightforward enough.
>
>
>I think I was fooled by the idea that psd=y belongs to domains nearer to the 
>root.
>
>
>> It's not obvious to me whether the org domain for 
>> users.scale.virtualcloud.com.br should be users.scale.virtualcloud.com.br or 
>> virtualcloud.com.br but I don't think it matters.  Situations like that, a 
>> PSD 
>> which is also a mail domain, are very rare and since the PSD has a DMARC 
>> record, one probably doesn't need to use its org domain to do DMARC checks.
>> 
>> Perhaps we can say that the result of doing relaxed alignment on a domain 
>> with 
>> psd=y is undefined, i.e., "don't do that."
>
>
>Hm, apparently yes.  According to the definition, two identical domains having 
>psd=y are in strict alignment but not in relaxed alignment, which is somewhat 
>counterintuitive.

Actually, no:

"If this process does not determine the Organizational Domain, then
   the initial target domain is the Organizational Domain."

This text in DMARCbis06 addresses that case.

ScottK

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