On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 11:04 AM Douglas Foster <
dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You misunderstsnd my position.  I don't expect a world where perfect
> information is dropped in my lap without any effort on my part.  Not now,
> not ever.
>
> I have determined, by measurement, that unauthenticated mail is a much
> smaller percentage of all mail than one might expect.  This makes
> inspection of unauthenticated mail both feasible and productive.
>
> But DMARC hinders this discovery by pretending that mail can only be
> authenticated if a policy is found.
>

There's no assertion by DMARC of the nature you're describing.
Specifically, when no policy is found, there is no DMARC outcome to be
considered; a receiver must rely on other metrics or heuristics to make its
handling decisions.

I don't see that as a hindrance; I see it as merely outside of the scope of
what DMARC intends (or is able) to solve.


> Investigation wil prevent unwanted blocks while exposing a lot of unwanted
> traffic.  Evaluators who are unwilling to make the effort to investigate
> are taking unnecesary risks which are likely to hurt them, sooner or later.
>

This sounds like it might be sage advice, but it exceeds the scope of DMARC
(or DKIM, or SPF, or ARC).

-MSK, p11g
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