On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:26 PM Jeroen Massar <jeroen=
40massar...@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

>
>
> > On 6 Feb 2024, at 20:52, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
> >
> > It appears that Jeroen Massar  <jer...@massar.ch> said:
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> As DMARCbis is being updated, I would like to suggest a new tag
> `required` shorted to `req`.
> >>
> >> ```
> >> `req=dkim`: requires DKIM, messages not properly signed are then to be
> rejected/quarantined based on 'p' policy.
> >>
> >> The tag should allow future expansion by requiring multiple mechanisms
> to be required by specifying
> >> multiple mechanisms separate, e.g. with `req=dkim,spf`. ...
> >
> > Unless something important has changed since the last time we took up
> > and rejected this idea, I don't think we need to discuss it further.
>
> Is the reasoning documented? I have checked the list archives, but there
> is a LOT of list archives...
>

This thread seems to show us landing on having such a tag -
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/PDktxOYkB28k6ukLDgDqlp6NEGw/

But then this subsequent thread appears to have landed on not having the
tag after all -
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/lplcAiYMqCh_Grp7lwfbDqlVicA/

>
> As at the moment, as per the example I gave in the email, DKIM is futile
> to have if SPF passes.
>

Your example shows an SPF result of "softfail", which I do not understand
to be a "pass". Why do you contend that it is a pass?

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