Hi Behcet,

On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 11:06 -0500, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
> Hi Carlos,
> 
> You say in various places in your draft that your protocol is PMIPv6-based.
> I wonder how it could be?

More accurately, we could say that the solution is network-based. PMIPv6
is just one network-based protocol and the solution is specified in the
draft for PMIPv6. Not sure what your doubt comes from...

> 
> Please see below.

Please see my comment inline below.

> 
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Luowen,
> >
> > First of all, apologies for my late reply.
> >
> > Please, see inline below.
> >
> > On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 14:43 +0800, [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Carlos
> >>
> >> I have reviewed your draft, and I have two questions to your draft as
> >> following:
> >
> > Thanks for reading it.
> >>
> >> First, let's consider this scenario. Initially, MN is attached to
> >> D-GW1 and has a session#1 (anchored at D-GW1). When moving to D-GW2,
> >> MN starts another session#2 (session#1 keeps on going). As per your
> >> draft, D-GW2 should simulate mndgw1 and mndgw2 and establish a tunnel
> >> with D-GW1 for this MN. MN continues to move to D-GW3. Then D-GW3
> >> should simulate mndgw1, mndgw2 and mndgw3 and maintains two forwarding
> >> tunnels between itself and D-GW1, D-GW2 for the MN. And MN could
> >> continue to move again and again.....
> >> PMIP requires only one MAG and only one PMIP tunnel for one MN. But it
> >> seems that, your draft requires, for one MN, multiple MAGs (i.e. those
> >> mndgw1, mndgw2 and mndgw3) and multiple tunnels for one MN. If MN
> >
> > The solution requires multiple logical interfaces to be created on the
> > D-GW, but the tunnels between them could be re-used.
> >
> >>  keeps on moving, the situation will become worse. I mean, maybe
> >> dozens of MAGs and tunnels are needed for this MN. In this case,
> >> performance of your D-GW will be a big issue. Of course, you can
> >
> > Creation and maintenance of logical interfaces is a very low resource
> > consuming task. If per-MN-per-anchor tunnel creation is a problem, they
> > can be shared among several MNs.
> >
> > Besides, in realistic deployments, the chances that an MN has active
> > anchored prefixes in more than 2-3 D-GWs will be very low. Most likely,
> > address continuity will be only provided for one prefix anchored at a
> > different D-GW.
> >
> 
> RFC 5213 in Section 7.1 says:
> Once the address configuration is complete, the mobile node can
>    continue to use this address configuration as long as it is attached
>    to the network that is in the scope of that Proxy Mobile IPv6 domain.
> 
> I wonder if MN moved out of PMIPv6 domain in your case?

No, it has not. One of the common assumptions for DMM is that the MN
does not need address continuity for the whole duration the MN is
attached to the domain. The idea is to enforce new communications to
make use of the address anchored closer to where the MN is attached to,
and to deprecate addresses anchored elsewhere (so they are not needed
once active communications using them are done).

Thanks,

Carlos

> 
> >>  limited the HNPes one MN can maintain (e.g. 3 HNPes per MN, then only
> >> 3 D-GWs could be involved at most), but to me, it is very hard to
> >> determine the threshold to satisfy every single MN.  Otherwise,
> >> network should have a mechanism for terminating IP addresses to
> >> release some D-GWs. But how to determine an IP address (HNP) is not
> >> used by a MN is also a challenge.
> >
> > There are several mechanisms that can be used to determine that an IP
> > address is no longer active. Some of them involve active participation
> > from the MN itself (which is the entity that actually knows it).
> >>
> >> Second, in figure 2 of your draft, D-GW2 simulates two logic GWs (i.e.
> >> mn1dgw1 and mn1dgw2), and MN is attached to both two logic GWs. Does
> >> this indicate MN should maintain tow separated logic link with mn1dgw1
> >> and mn1dgw2 respectively? If it does, then how can you ensure that MN
> >> will establish an additional logic link with mn1dgw2 when MN moves
> >> from D-GW1 to D-GW2?
> >
> > No, no logical links are required. From the point of view of the MN, it
> > is just as it is attached to a link where two routers are also attached.
> > When MN move to D-GW3, it is as a new router got attached to the link
> > (no configuration step required by the MN).
> >
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Behcet

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