> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Marco Liebsch [mailto:[email protected]]
> Envoyé : lundi 19 mars 2012 11:53
> À : SEITE Pierrick RD-RESA-REN; [email protected]; [email protected]
> Cc : [email protected]
> Objet : RE: [DMM] New DMM draft:draft-bernardos-dmm-distributed-
> anchoring-00.txt
> 
> Hi Pierrick,
> 
> I agree that this is an interesting approach from research point of
> view. The question
> is how practical this is. Intelligence on the MN is ok, but to take a
> decision about which
> IP address to use, the MN needs information. If information is solely a
> binding between the prefix
> and the level of the associated anchor in a hierarchy of anchors, then
> the
> MN may select a prefix/address according to the expected IP session
> duration to avoid
> a change in the topological anchor of the used IP address. Taking such
> decision requires also
> some information about the topology, which I doubt operators will
> reveal. 

I confirm :-)

Important
> here is the location of the anchor and the location of the used serving
> point. 
Latter could
> be a public Internet service, hence knowledge of the operator's IX
> peering points may
> be relevant. If the serving point is operator CDN-like, typically the
> MN is served
> by transparent caching, hence, the location of the cache is not known
> to the MN.
> 

You're right but, actually, we may not need a so smart selection. I was not 
talking about a so sophisticated selection; actually, IMHO, the requirement, is 
just that the UE can distinguish anchored prefix/address to be used by the 
application which need mobility support. Today, with network based mobility 
management, there is no way for the UE to know the type of address.

> A different and pragmatic approach is to select the closest anchor
> point to serve any IP session
> of the UE and to provide a good solution to handle routing after anchor
> relocation plus
> renewal of the MN's IP address from time to time. IMO, such approach
> enables short
> routing paths between any source and the MN while offloading traffic
> from the core
> network as its best.
> 

I agree, IMO, this is basic requirement of DMM; but I do not see this approach 
as different, it is complementary.

BR,
Pierrick

> marco
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Montag, 19. März 2012 11:17
> > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Marco Liebsch
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [DMM] New DMM draft:draft-bernardos-dmm-distributed-
> > anchoring-00.txt
> >
> > I think it is worth to work on solution providing more information on
> the type
> > of address. IMHO, it is a requirement for the UE to play with more
> than one
> > IP address and select the more appropriate source address according
> the
> > topological anchor point. DMM is clearly one use-case but, this
> feature is also
> > required for offload purpose in current centralized network based
> mobility.
> > The ongoing proposals for RA extensions, that allow to distinguish
> anchored
> > from local prefix, are interesting. Now, the UE shall have the
> intelligence to
> > make the source address selection according to prefix properties; at
> least
> > extensions to RFC3484 may be defined but more sophisticated selection
> > behavior may be required, typically, policies based selection, e.g.
> offload
> > policies.
> >
> > Pierrick
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part
> de
> > > jouni korhonen Envoyé : dimanche 18 mars 2012 21:47 À : Carlos
> Jesús
> > > Bernardos Cano; Marco Liebsch Cc : [email protected] Objet : Re: [DMM]
> New
> > > DMM draft:draft-bernardos-dmm-distributed-
> > > anchoring-00.txt
> > >
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> So you think that the UE should receive multiple IP addresses
> and
> > > treat them
> > > >> differently according to the associated topological anchor
> point?
> > > Hmm, yes, possible.
> > > >> What about real time streaming and other IP data sessions, which
> > > could have a
> > > >> longer lifetime, they should be anchored than at a central point
> as
> > > well, right?
> > > >> If the MN had such intelligence and information, it could treat
> the
> > > HNPs differently, true.
> > > >
> > > > I think thank kind of approaches make sense.
> > >
> > > There are a couple proposals on table that go into this direction.
> We
> > > put those under "addressing enhancements" slot. Basically
> piggybacking
> > > anchoring properties of a prefix along with address configuration.
> > >
> > > - Jouni
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Carlos
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> marco
> > >
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