Hi all,

I tend to agree with Georgious, however I still do not figure out what is the 
use-case for distributed mobile multicast (other than academic considerations)? 
Can someone give concrete example?

I haven't real all messages from this thread. So, maybe I missed important 
points.

BR,
Pierrick

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Objet : Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements


Hi all,



I also agree that the DMM solution should somehow consider muticast deployment. 
However, I do not thnk that the DMM WG is the right WG to provide the multicast 
based DMM solution!



One alternative solution will be to have a multicast requirement that 
emphasizes the need of having extensibility hooks (possibilities) that can be 
used later on by the multimob WG to provide a

a multicast enabled DMM solution!





So a requirement that specifies something like the following could be used for 
this purpose:



"The DMM (unicast) solution MUST be specified in such a way that it can be 
extended to also support multicast traffic."





Best regards,

Georgios







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Van: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [[email protected]] 
namens Seil Jeon [[email protected]]
Verzonden: vrijdag 16 november 2012 22:25
To: 'Zuniga, Juan Carlos'
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Onderwerp: Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements
Hi Juan,

I've been looked at changed flow of your proposed text but sorry now that my
comment is posted.
At first time, I couldn't make sure however, on hearing Stig's description,
it seems quite reasonable at the first step, not giving any restrictions but
leaving some-specific for the DMM solution it does not support multicast.

On the other hand, it remains at a basic stage for the DMM solution to
support multicast.
So I think additional requirements need to be made for the DMM solution,
accordingly. But of course, this should not also give any specific
limitation and restriction but should be made towards the direction not
limiting the benefits provided by distributed deployment.

I hope to get more comments on this.

Regards,

Seil


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To: Stig Venaas; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stig Venaas [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 3:01 PM
> To: jouni korhonen
> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Zuniga, Juan Carlos; 
> Konstantinos Pentikousis;
> Peter McCann; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [DMM] Multicast requirements
>
> On 11/15/2012 3:17 AM, jouni korhonen wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I think we are reading too much into multicast and unicast should
be
> >> designed in an integrated manner.
> >>
> >> The fact is that multicast is considered as an area of
> specialization,
> >> it requires knowledge of very different protocols than we are
> >> accustomed to in mobility.
> >
> > "Requirement: DMM solutions SHOULD support multicast services. If a
> specific DMM solution does not support multicast services, an
> explanation MUST be provided."
>
> This sounds good to me.
>
> The main thing I want to achieve is what was describes as motivation
> earlier in this thread. Multicast should at least be considered when
> looking into DMM solutions, and not just an afterthought once the
> solution is decided.
>
> Stig

[JCZ] I fully agree with this. That was the intention of the proposed text.

Regards,

Juan Carlos

>
> > To me that reads basically "do not break foundations for multicast
> unless you have a valid & documented reason for it".  If we look e.g.
> into RFC625 multicast wording that is there very briefly but gives a
> hint to a developer where to head to. That is the level I would expect
> DMM documents should aim to.
> >
> > - Jouni
> >
> >
> >> Let dmm deal with its current charter that does not include a word
> of
> >> multicast and if everything goes well we can come back and discuss
> dmm
> >> multicast.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Behcet

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