Hi Charlie,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Perkins [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:16 AM
> To: Templin, Fred L; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [DMM] AERO and Mobile IP comparison
> 
> 
> Hello Fred,
> 
> One comment:
> 
> On 10/7/2014 11:08 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote:
> > - the mobility archetype for AERO is that of a mobile router that stays 
> > connected to its
> >    home link even if it changes between access link technologies
> 
> This implies local-only mobility, right?

Not just local, but global also. Take for example an AERO mobile router that is 
connecting
over an access link provided by some ISP other than its home network. In that 
case, the
node typically remains connected to its home link by setting up a VPN 
connection via a
security gateway connected to its home network. In that case, the AERO link is 
said to
be extended *through* the security gateway. So, the AERO mobile router remains
tethered to its home link via the VPN, but  it can set up route optimization 
with Internet
correspondents in a manner similar to MIPv6. In that case, communications with 
the
Internet correspondent can bypass the home network.

> If so, then I guess from your other description that "local" is
> engineered to be huge.

AERO has been evolving for the better part of a decade really, but in recent 
years it
has been specifically focused on enterprise network mobility where the 
enterprise
network that services my employer has been used as the reference model. In such
cases, the AERO virtual link is indeed huge.

> But more to the point it puts AERO
> pretty much in direct competition with PMIP -- or, perhaps
> PMIP with LMAs stitched together by way of BGP.

I have to admit that PMIP comparison was an after-thought that only went into 
the
AERO spec very recently. Yes, AERO can be applied in the same use cases as for
PMIP, but in the enterprise mobility case the AERO Client itself is the mobile 
router
and runs a small piece of application layer code to do the tunneling and control
messaging. In our enterprise, for example, mobile nodes can start out attached
to a wired LAN connection, then change over to WiFi, then change over to 4G,
etc. See my "day in the life" message from several weeks ago:

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmm/current/msg01464.html

In fact, I see PMIP as a very specialized solution for cellular operator 
networks.
There are vastly many other use cases where having the mobile node do the
tunneling on its own behalf is necessary. AERO supports either model.

Thanks - Fred
[email protected]

> Regards,
> Charlie P.

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