Alex, 

Do you have a specific change to the text in mind? The charter text uses 
systematically "mobile host/router" to make sure mobile routers are not 
forgotten. However, charter also allows solutions that are not specifically 
tailored to mobile routers. 

Jouni

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Jouni Korhonen
Broadcom

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> Alexandru Petrescu <[email protected]> kirjoitti 8.10.2014 kello 
> 14.38:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to comment on reusing prior work.
> 
> Citing RFC3963 and RFC 5177 (v4 and v6 extensions to Mobile IP for network 
> mobility) seems logical to me, since they're about Mobile IP too.
> 
> Citing RFC 4888 and RFC 4889 (NEMO Route Optimization PS and solution 
> analysis) seems logical to me, since the charter says "optimal" routes.
> 
> Currently there is discussion in the DMM WG sketching potential solutions.  
> When they're ready they'll certainly compare to these two sets of RFCs, and 
> will have to answer same questions: does it work with Mobile Router (not just 
> Mobile Host)?  does it offer optimal routes? does it modify CN?  is it 
> subject to 'stalemate' situations (RFC4888 section 2.7)?  does it involve 
> multiple encapsulations?  does it permit nestedness?
> 
> Alex
> 
> Le 03/10/2014 21:38, The IESG a écrit :
>> The Distributed Mobility Management (dmm) working group in the Internet
>> Area of the IETF is undergoing rechartering. The IESG has not made any
>> determination yet. The following draft charter was submitted, and is
>> provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to
>> the IESG mailing list (iesg at ietf.org) by 2014-10-13.
>> 
>> Distributed Mobility Management (dmm)
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Current Status: Active WG
>> 
>> Chairs:
>>   Dapeng Liu <[email protected]>
>>   Jouni Korhonen <[email protected]>
>> 
>> Assigned Area Director:
>>   Brian Haberman <[email protected]>
>> 
>> Mailing list
>>   Address: [email protected]
>>   To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmm
>>   Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dmm
>> 
>> Charter:
>> 
>> Mobility management solutions lie at the center of the wireless Internet
>> and enable mobile devices to partake in IP networks anytime and
>> anywhere. The IETF Distributed Mobility Management (DMM) working group
>> (WG) specifies solutions for IP networks so that traffic between mobile
>> and correspondent nodes can take an optimal route. DMM solutions aim for
>> transparency above the IP layer, including maintenance of active
>> transport level sessions when mobile hosts or mobile networks change
>> their point of attachment to the Internet.
>> 
>> Wireless network deployments have traditionally relied on hierarchical
>> schemes that often lead to centralized deployment models, where a small
>> number of mobility anchors manage both mobility and reachability for a
>> mobile node. The DMM WG will consider the latest developments in mobile
>> networking research and operational practice (i.e. flattening network
>> architectures, the impact of virtualization, new deployment needs as
>> wireless access technologies evolve in the coming years) and will
>> describe how distributed mobility management addresses the new needs in
>> this area better than previously standardized solutions.
>> 
>> A topic of particular focus will be mobility anchoring in this new
>> context, and the DMM working group is chartered to work on
>> maintenance-oriented extensions of the Mobile IPv6 protocol family (RFC
>> 5213, RFC 5844, RFC 5555, RFC 5568, and RFC 6275) as well as new
>> approaches which capitalize on other protocols specified by the IETF.
>> For example, mobility management in a limited area, such as within an
>> autonomous system, is not strictly limited to mentioned IP mobility
>> protocols but can be any existing or a new protocol solution enabling
>> the movement of a mobile node such as routing protocols. When extending
>> protocols that are not based on Mobile IP, DMM solutions will have to be
>> reviewed by the corresponding WGs.
>> 
>> IPv6 is assumed to be present in both the mobile host/router and the
>> access networks. DMM solutions are primarily targeted at IPv6
>> deployments and are not required to support IPv4, in particular for the
>> case where private IPv4 addresses and/or NATs are used. DMM solutions
>> must maintain backward compatibility:  If the network or the mobile
>> host/router does not support the distributed mobility management
>> protocol that should not prevent the mobile host/router gaining basic
>> access (i.e., nomadic) to the network.
>> 
>> Contrary to earlier IP mobility protocols, mobility management signaling
>> paths and end-user traffic forwarding paths may differ. Further,
>> mobility-related functions may be located in separate network nodes. DMM
>> solutions should not distinguish between physical or virtualized
>> networking functions. Whenever applicable, clarifications and additional
>> features/capabilities for specific networking function deployment
>> models, e.g. in virtualized environments, are in-scope and encouraged.
>> Solutions may also specify the selection between the care-of addresses
>> and home address(es)/prefix(es) for different application use cases.
>> 
>> The working group will produce both informational architectural and
>> standards track protocol solutions on the following work item topics.
>> 
>>       o Distributed mobility management deployment models and scenarios:
>>         describe the target high-level network architectures and
>>         deployment models where distributed mobility management
>>         protocol solutions would apply.
>> 
>>       o Enhanced mobility anchoring: define protocol solutions for a
>>         gateway and mobility anchor assignment and mid-session mobility
>>         anchor switching that go beyond what has been specified, for
>>         example, in RFC 6097, 6463, and 5142. Traffic steering
>>         associated with the anchor switch is also in-scope if deemed
>>         appropriate.
>> 
>>       o Forwarding path and signaling management: the function
>>         that handles mobility management signaling interacts with the
>>         DMM network elements for managing the forwarding state
>>         associated with a mobile node's IP traffic.  These two functions
>>         may or may not be collocated. Furthermore, the forwarding state
>>         may also be distributed into multiple network elements instead
>>         of a single network element (e.g., anchor).  Protocol extensions
>>         or new protocols will be specified to allow the above mentioned
>>         forwarding path and signalling management.
>> 
>>       o Exposing mobility state to mobile nodes and network nodes:
>>         define solutions that allow, for example, mobile nodes to select
>>         either a care-of address or a home address depending on an
>>         application' mobility needs. In order to enable this
>>         functionality, the network-side control functions and other
>>         networking nodes must also be able to exchange appropriate
>>         control information, as well as to the mobile nodes and their
>>         applications.
>> 
>> The working group may decide to extend the current milestones based on
>> the new information and knowledge gained during working on other
>> documents listed in the initial milestones. Possible new documents and
>> milestones must still fit into the overall DMM charter scope as outlined
>> above.
>> 
>> Milestones:
> 
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