I'm sorry but I had problems sending the previous message. Hope I succeed this 
time, my response is inline.



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De: dmm [[email protected]] em nome de FIGUEIREDO Sergio 
[[email protected]]
Enviado: sexta-feira, 29 de maio de 2015 23:34
Para: Alper Yegin
Cc: [email protected]
Assunto: Re: [DMM] [dmm] #49 (ondemand-mobility): full on-demand mobility 
support

Hi Alper,

Thanks for the answer. Please check inline.

On 29-05-2015 22:44, Alper Yegin wrote:

Hello Sergio,

On May 22, 2015, at 6:24 PM, FIGUEIREDO Sergio wrote:



Hi Alper,

As Seil wrote, the problem which this ticket intends to reflect is that of 
non-optimal routing as a result of not being able to request a non-anchored (or 
local) source IP address.


A non-anchored (local) address is called Nomadic IP Address.
If the app needs one such address, then it can ask one and get one.
API already supports that.

SF: You are right. But I didn't mean a Nomadic IP address, but a Sustained IP 
address assigned by the current network. So, a description closer to what I 
meant would be:

"...this ticket intends to reflect is that of non-optimal routing as a result 
of not being able to request a Sustained IP address assigned by the local 
network".

Best regards,
Sérgio


This might be a problem in any scenario where new Sustained IP addresses are 
not assigned by default at the new network. The intention of the flag is not to 
request a new prefix, but to assure a source address associated to a local 
network is used. Which, in cases where it is not available, leads to the 
configuration of a new one.



Alper




Best regards,
Sergio


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-----Original Message-----
From: dmm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alper Yegin
Sent: sexta-feira, 22 de Maio de 2015 12:08
To: Seil Jeon
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DMM] [dmm] #49 (ondemand-mobility): full on-demand mobility 
support

Hi Seil,

Thanks for creating the ticket.

Please see below.




#49: full on-demand mobility support

The three proposed flags express a "type" of source IP address an  application 
wants to get to the IP stack. Particularly, the sustained IP  address is 
proposed to provide on-demand IP session continuity, which  activates IP 
mobility once the terminal moves across other access network.
While the terminal stays at the same network where the session is  initiated, 
regular IP routing is applied.

The on-demand draft does not assure provide the full on-demand mobility  for 
all scenarios by merely indicating the Socket API,  IPV6_REQ_SUSTAINED_IP. An 
example scenario raising the aforementioned  issue is as follows;

0. The MN is configured with one or more Nomadic IP addresses.

1. Once an app. requests "sustained IP address" to the IP stack, and it  will 
obtain a sustained IP address through a protocol procedure between  the 
terminal and network.

2. Other app. initiated over the same access network will use the same  
sustained IP address while the terminal remains connected at the same  access 
network.

3. The terminal moves to another access network and a new app. requests a  
sustained IP address with the Socket API to the IP stack. Since a  sustained IP 
address is already available in the IP stack, the sustained  IP address is 
assigned to the new app.



Yes, that's what happens.
You are not pointing to an issue up until this point, right? Because, you 
continuing your email with a "Besides" gives the impression that you are 
pointing to an issue, but I don't see any issue captured in the above text.




Besides, in case sustained IP address allocation is used default, there  may be 
multiple sustained IP addresses including newly obtained sustained  IP address 
over the new access network in the IP stack. However, when an  app. is 
initiated, the IP stack may not select the new one in the context  of the 
default source IP address selection mechanism [RFC6724][RFC5014].



OK, is the issue following: When there are multiple sustained IP addresses, how 
does the IP stack pick one among them?



For providing the full on-demand mobility, a new flag is needed, letting  the 
IP stack request a new sustained IP address or choose a sustained IP  address 
not requiring IP mobility anchoring when an application is  initiated, among 
the existing ones in the IP stack.



Your flag is not a solution to what I captured above. It does something else: 
Instruct the IP stack to go get a new sustained IP address whether there is 
already one or more configured on the stack or not.


Alper





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Reporter:               |      Owner:  draft-ietf-dmm-ondemand-
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>      |  
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
   Type:  defect       |     Status:  new
Priority:  critical     |  Milestone:
Component:  ondemand-    |    Version:
mobility               |   Keywords:  on-demand mobility
Severity:  Submitted    |
WG Document            |
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Ticket URL: 
<http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/dmm/trac/ticket/49><http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/dmm/trac/ticket/49>
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