Hi Kalyani, I like your practical approach. In addition to the vendors though, I think It will help if we could get people from the service providers to present their point of view as well. It might take some time though before we get more clarifications from the vendors or carriers. In the meantime, let's keep going forward with your plan and make modifications as we receive feedback.
Arashmid From: Bogineni, Kalyani [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 26 January 2018 11:45 To: Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]>; Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <[email protected]>; [email protected] Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter <[email protected]>; TongWen <[email protected]>; Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G Arashmid: I was going to go through the process I followed to create the requirements in this white paper. Ideal would be if some of the vendors can invite their SA2/CT4 counterparts to give an overview of the architecture and of the interfaces/protocols in DMM WG. Then we can see if what we captured as requirements in the white paper need modification. Is there any vendor who can volunteer to do that? Kalyani From: Arashmid Akhavain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 11:40 AM To: Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; TongWen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [E] RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G Hi Kalyani, Do you know if anyone from 3GPP will attend? Arashmid From: Bogineni, Kalyani [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 January 2018 12:04 To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; TongWen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G I can host a call on Thursday 1st February at 8:00 - 9:30 AM US ET. I think that works for most folks. Folks who are interested can let me know and I will set up the WebEx. Kalyani From: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:49 AM To: Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; TongWen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [E] Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G Hi Kalyani, Call sounds great. Wed or later works for me, but you can pick the day/time based on the feedback from all the interested folks. Sri From: "Bogineni, Kalyani" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 4:46 AM To: Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Sri Gundavelli <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, TongWen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G Sri, Arashmid: I can host a call to review the requirements documented. It seems like folks would like to understand more before they can provide feedback and comments. I can host a call on Monday, January 29th. Can you suggest a time that would work for most time zones? I am located on US East Coast. Kalyani From: Arashmid Akhavain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:38 AM To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; TongWen <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [E] RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G Hi Sri, Thank you for your reply and clarifications. I think Kalyani's work is extremely valuable, but we also need to set an strategy for our reply back to 3GPP. Currently most discussions are about individual protocols such as SRV6, LISP/ILSP, ILNP, ILA, etc. which are really in one form or another a type of ID-Location approach. I believe we first need to address 3GPP's request from the architecture point of view, before we dive into implementation details. Is there any discussion around different competing network architectures? Not sure if you have seen a white paper titled "Evolving 5G Routing" by Docomo, Huawei and others. We also hosted a live webcast demo that shows two LTE slices using ID-Location for data path and distribute ID-Location information to interested eNodeBs via public cloud pub/sub service. The result is very promising and shows the capability of this architecture. I believe the combination of the white paper and the demo could perhaps serve as a good starting point to get the architecture discussion going and that's where conference calls can come handy. I agree though let's start with the mailing list and move to calls next. Best regards, Arashmid Akhavain From: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 17 January 2018 17:53 To: Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G Arashmid - We do have regular DMM working group meeting during the IETF week. I guess, what you are asking for is a WG-chair scheduled conference calls? DMM List may be very quite, but there have been regular conf calls between authors of some of the WG documents. Authors of FPC host those calls regularly. For the new work item that Kalyani is proposing, we need to have some discussions in the mailer and once the document is adopted as a WG document, we can certainly host some calls (author/chair scheduled) on a need basis. So, the first step is to post comments on the documents and trigger some discussions. Sri From: dmm <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Arashmid Akhavain <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:16 PM To: "Bogineni, Kalyani" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G Hi everyone, Online meetings on a regular basis can perhaps help moving things forward. Arashmid From: dmm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bogineni, Kalyani Sent: 17 January 2018 15:20 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G Folks: Here is the draft with 3GPP architecture described as much as relevant to N9 interface. I have extracted some diagrams from 3GPP specs and will redo them in ASCII after I get some feedback on whether to include them or not in this document. Kalyani From: Bogineni, Kalyani Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:14 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Bogineni, Kalyani <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G Folks: In response to the 3GPP CT4 study item on user plane protocols, we propose that a white paper be developed that can compare the different IETF protocols. Attached is an outline. Please let me know if you would like to contribute. Kalyani Bogineni Verizon
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