HI Kalyani,
Yes, a call to better understand the requirement will be great. I asked for 
some clarifications from CT4 Chair and copied 
dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>. But didn't get a reply so far. So, a call 
would definitely help.

I am on Canada East Coast. 10am East Coast usually works for Europe, but might 
not work for folks in China, Japan, or people on the West Coast.

If people have presentations, I can arrange a WebEx meeting as well. Either 
way, a call will be very helpful.

Arashmid


From: Bogineni, Kalyani [mailto:kalyani.bogin...@verizonwireless.com]
Sent: 25 January 2018 07:46
To: Arashmid Akhavain <arashmid.akhav...@huawei.com>; Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) 
<sgund...@cisco.com>; dmm@ietf.org
Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter <peter.ashwoodsm...@huawei.com>; TongWen 
<tong...@huawei.com>
Subject: RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Sri, Arashmid:

I can host a call to review the requirements documented. It seems like folks 
would like to understand more before they can
provide feedback and comments.

I can host a call on Monday, January 29th. Can you suggest a time that would 
work for most time zones? I am located on US
East Coast.

Kalyani

From: Arashmid Akhavain [mailto:arashmid.akhav...@huawei.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:38 AM
To: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <sgund...@cisco.com<mailto:sgund...@cisco.com>>; 
Bogineni, Kalyani 
<kalyani.bogin...@verizonwireless.com<mailto:kalyani.bogin...@verizonwireless.com>>;
 dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>
Cc: AshwoodsmithPeter 
<peter.ashwoodsm...@huawei.com<mailto:peter.ashwoodsm...@huawei.com>>; TongWen 
<tong...@huawei.com<mailto:tong...@huawei.com>>
Subject: [E] RE: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions 
for 5G

Hi Sri,
Thank you for your reply and clarifications.
I think Kalyani's work is extremely valuable, but we also need to set an 
strategy for our reply back to 3GPP. Currently most discussions are about 
individual protocols such as SRV6, LISP/ILSP, ILNP, ILA, etc. which are really 
in one form or another a type of ID-Location approach.  I believe we first need 
to address 3GPP's request from the architecture point of view, before we dive 
into implementation details. Is there any discussion around different competing 
network architectures?

Not sure if you have seen a white paper titled "Evolving 5G Routing" by Docomo, 
Huawei and others. We also hosted a live webcast demo that shows two LTE slices 
using ID-Location for data path and distribute ID-Location information to 
interested eNodeBs via public cloud pub/sub service. The result is very 
promising and shows the capability of this architecture.

I believe the combination of the white paper and the demo could perhaps serve 
as a good starting point to get the architecture discussion going and that's 
where conference calls can come handy. I agree though let's start with the 
mailing list and move to calls next.

Best regards,
Arashmid Akhavain

From: Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) [mailto:sgund...@cisco.com]
Sent: 17 January 2018 17:53
To: Arashmid Akhavain 
<arashmid.akhav...@huawei.com<mailto:arashmid.akhav...@huawei.com>>; Bogineni, 
Kalyani 
<kalyani.bogin...@verizonwireless.com<mailto:kalyani.bogin...@verizonwireless.com>>;
 dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Arashmid  - We do have regular DMM working group meeting during the IETF week. 
I guess, what you are asking for is a WG-chair scheduled conference calls? DMM 
List may be very quite, but there have been regular conf calls between authors 
of some of the WG documents. Authors of FPC host those calls regularly. For the 
new work item that Kalyani is proposing, we need to have some discussions in 
the mailer and once the document is adopted as a WG document, we can certainly 
host some calls (author/chair scheduled) on a need basis. So, the first step is 
to post comments on the documents and trigger some discussions.


Sri



From: dmm <dmm-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of 
Arashmid Akhavain 
<arashmid.akhav...@huawei.com<mailto:arashmid.akhav...@huawei.com>>
Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:16 PM
To: "Bogineni, Kalyani" 
<kalyani.bogin...@verizonwireless.com<mailto:kalyani.bogin...@verizonwireless.com>>,
 "dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>" <dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Hi everyone,
Online meetings on a regular basis can perhaps help moving things forward.

Arashmid



From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bogineni, Kalyani
Sent: 17 January 2018 15:20
To: dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [DMM] white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Folks:

Here is the draft with 3GPP architecture described as much as relevant to N9 
interface.
I have extracted some diagrams from 3GPP specs and will redo them in ASCII 
after I get
some feedback on whether to include them or not in this document.

Kalyani

From: Bogineni, Kalyani
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 4:14 PM
To: dmm@ietf.org<mailto:dmm@ietf.org>
Cc: Bogineni, Kalyani 
<kalyani.bogin...@verizonwireless.com<mailto:kalyani.bogin...@verizonwireless.com>>
Subject: white paper for optimized mobile user plane solutions for 5G

Folks:

In response to the 3GPP CT4 study item on user plane protocols, we propose that 
a white paper
be developed that can compare the different IETF protocols. Attached is an 
outline. Please let me
know if you would like to contribute.

Kalyani Bogineni
Verizon

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