On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Luca Muscariello
<luca.muscarie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The paragraph you reported is from the draft that describes hICN to enable
> several use cases.
> Mobility is one of those, not the only one.
> To clarify, the draft on hICN mobility deployment options focuses on the 5G
> service based architecture.
>
> You may be asking
> 1) is it possible to get all the features provided by hICN w/o updates to
> the transport layer?
> 2) is changing the transport protocol unnecessary difficult to enable all
> the use cases mentioned in the draft?
>
Sorry, but I'm still missing something fundamental here. AFAICT, the
idea of hICN is to put routes in the local routing table and use
existing forwarding and routing to forward packets to mobile nodes. So
if a node changes location, then the routing tables need to be
updated. Effectively this is a bunch of host routes that need to be
maintained. At least this is what I gather from the draft:

"hICN network layer is about using the IPv6 FIB to determine a next
hop router to forward requests or using a local packet cache to
determine if an incoming request can be satisfied locally."

Is this correct? If it is, then I sort of understand how hICN could be
used for mobility or virtualization without network overlays, but then
I'm completely lost as to why this would require any changes in the
transport layer.

Tom





> IMO, the answers are no for both.
>
> Luca
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 9:26 PM Tom Herbert <t...@quantonium.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:46 AM, Luca Muscariello
>> <luca.muscarie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > the draft below has been posted and describes deployments options for
>> > anchorless mobility management  by using
>> > the hicn network architecture that implements icn semantics in IPv6
>> > networks.
>> >
>> >
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-auge-dmm-hicn-mobility-deployment-options
>> >
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-muscariello-intarea-hicn/
>> >
>> > A background document has been posted to the internet area WG and
>> > reported
>> > here for your convenience.
>> > The core principle behind hicn and mobility management is that data
>> > sources
>> > are named using location independent names
>> > encoded in IPv6 addresses. The transport service sitting on top of the
>> > hicn
>> > architecture is not based on usual TCP/UDP sockets
>> > but on a novel consumer/producer transport service that will be
>> > described in
>> > another draft.
>>
>> From the draft: "The transport end-point offers two kinds of services
>> to applications: a producer and a consumer service. The service is
>> instantiated in the application by opening communication sockets with
>> an API to perform basic transport service operations: allocation,
>> initialization, configuration, data transmission and reception."
>>
>> This seems like a pretty dramatic rethink of the transport layer just
>> for the purposes of mobility management. Will there be a way to use
>> hICN at the network layer with exsiting and unmodified transport
>> protocols (i.e. can this be done without boiling the ocean)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> > The current document and a companion document that will be posted soon
>> > describe the different deployment options
>> > with special care to the 5G service based architecture.
>> > Thanks for the comments already received that helped completing this -00
>> > draft.
>> >
>> > Luca
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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