I i use a combo of both waveserguon and Soundforge. There is the Auto region and Extract region that cuts the waveform up and then extracts them into a folder for you.
>From: amit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden Secret..... >Date: 13 Jan 2002 20:11:03 -0800 > >I think we've got about 6 people who have expressed interest so far. Email >me private if you feel like joinin in on what we've discussed so far. > >On Sun, 13 January 2002, "part.muted" wrote: > > > > > Tom, if you prefer backend stuff - I'm available for the design of the >front > > end... > > > > I'm just about to go freelance and am working on a new portfolio site >for > > myself (old version @ http://users.yesmate.com/d2k)... > > > > I'll also be on the look out for someone like yourself when work comes >in > > that requires you're capabilities (PHP/MySQL etc). Get in touch private > > stylee for more info - I've also got a few things in the pipeline on a >whole > > new collective idea... > > > > Whoever stated this caper - get a name sorted, and I'll mock-up a few > > logo's - for nowt of course, the site design too... > > > > Peace // Dan // > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Sprynczynatyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 9:27 PM > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden Secret..... > > > > > > > Well shit, looks like this ball's a rolling. I'd be willing to do web > > page design, > > > coding, and database work (I prefer the latter two) for this project. > > With a Linux > > > server, MySQL and php would be a perfect (free) combination. >Developing > > > > the basic > > > structure (put all the files in a database for download and allow user > > submissions) > > > would take very little time. > > > > > > Who's spearheading this thing? This is a worthwhile idea that we > > shouldn't let die. > > > Viva good breaks for the masses! > > > > > > > > > Auraphage > > > PS I vote for hifibreaks.com. > > > > > > Ozan Pakyuz wrote: > > > > > > > I would be interested in this as I already have a site called Sample > > > > Network, hosted on linux servers, unlimited bandwidth and space. At >the > > > > moment I have just opened up a Music production forum but I am >looking > > > > for something more constructive to do with it!!! > > > > > > > > Let me know what the idea you guys have and well see if we can get > > > > something going. > > > > > > > > Cost wise, to run the server would only cost �35 per year and I >would be > > > > willing to foot this cost myself. > > > > > > > > Ozzie > > > > http://samplenetwork.co.uk > > > > http://www.klubknowledge.co.uk > > > > http://www.nsconsulting.net > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Beth Kidd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: 11 January 2002 14:36 > > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden Secret..... > > > > > > > > I would be interested in voluntering for this as well. Is there a >host > > > > available from someone on this list? If not, I have been checking >web > > > > hosting lately and I found a host that is $12.95 a month that is > > > > unmetered > > > > bandwidth and supports PHP, perl, mysql, etc. > > > > > > > > I don't yet have my linux server up at my house, but in the near >future > > > > I > > > > would be willing to host w/ the same support structure. It's built, >I > > > > just > > > > need to configure. Contributions would be welcome (say $10 a month) >for > > > > the > > > > cost of connection. > > > > > > > > It would be interesting to do a group project. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "amit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:54 PM > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden Secret..... > > > > > > > > > >What is wrong with idea to > > > > > > moderate a site that would > > > > > > consist 100% 44kHZ/16bit/stereo breaks and sounds?? > > > > > > > > > > i just checked, qualitybreaks.org and qualitybreaks.net are both > > > > available! so is hifibreaks.com. what else? digitalbreaks.com is > > > > available too... > > > > > > > > > > id be willing to split the cost and time of doing this if others >were > > > > interested. > > > > > > > > > > "build it and they will come" > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 10 January 2002, "Ott \"Dzheimz\" Karp" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone has to have the quality stuff. Please put them up. I > > > > wouldn't > > > > mind > > > > > > downloading the breaks > > > > > > for 3 or 4 times longer if the quality is fine. Is the zip'ing >also > > > > harming > > > > > > > the sound? If so, I'm sure > > > > > > I wouldn't have prob with d-loading wav-s. What is wrong with >idea > > > > to > > > > > > moderate a site that would > > > > > > consist 100% 44kHZ/16bit/stereo breaks and sounds?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:35 PM > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden >Secret..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know what you're saying here. Whilst I think there are > > > > > > > some great samples on the Dogs on Acid thread, it would be > > > > > > > great to have a site with pure 44.1KHz samples. Whilst > > > > > > > having them at this quality takes longer to download, breaks > > > > > > > are generally short, and when you zip them it's not too bad. > > > > > > > I must say that I've spent so long downloading loads of > > > > > > > samples, to find I can only use 1 or 2. Then again, how the > > > > > > > hell do you moderate a site that is 100% usefull d'n'b > > > > > > > samples? Any ideas....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Ott "Dzheimz" Karp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: 10 January 2002 12:43 > > > > > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden > > > > > > > Secret..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My opinion: if the sound is 11kHZ you cant process it to > > > > > > > sound like 44kHZ. > > > > > > > 'Could have a littlebit better result with editing loops > > > > > > > with those things U > > > > > > > mentioned though, > > > > > > > but it still remains weak. What I'm aiming is I think that > > > > > > > most producers > > > > > > > just dont want to > > > > > > > upload their "good" sounds to public pages. > > > > > > > Any thoughts/suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > Dzheimz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Turbo Hz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:05 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden > > > > > > > Secret..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > low quality? > > > > > > > > Haven't seen so much quality in ages!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't be a lazy ass and process the beats!!! > > > > > > > > Most of them are original samples from vinyl, in it's > > > > > > > original form > > > > > > > (that's > > > > > > > > why some sound a bit dull). > > > > > > > > But you can do a lot to improve them! what about exciters, > > > > > > > compressors... > > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what the breakbeat science is all about! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Ott "Dzheimz" Karp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:02 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden > > > > > > > Secret..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks You very much for the info, but the breaks there > > > > > > > seem to be a bit > > > > > > > > > lowquality, what do You think? > > > > > > > > > For quality production they are not enough. Is there any > > > > > > > "proffessional" > > > > > > > > > sites for downloading loops'n'braks? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dzheimz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "Jurgen Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:52 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? Hidden > > > > > > > Secret..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you want all the classics -and I know you do :) - > > > > > > > this is that DOA > > > > > > > > > thread with all of > > > > > > > > > > em in there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?s=d96f979e5e71db7cf > > > > > > > d818b7aaca08630& > > > > > > > > > threadid=21973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you have Cable or DSL, cause those signatures > > > > > > > are getting > > > > > > > bigger > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > the day :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Jan 2002, at 22:13, Ott "Dzheimz" Karp wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where to get most pure/quality and basic drumloops > > > > > > > and -sounds? All > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > webpages I've been to do not have them. Any > > > > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dzheimz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Jurgen Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming -How? > > > > > > > Hidden Secret..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not saying I'm an expert actually, but on the > > > > > > > amen compo track > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > > > > I've used > > > > > > > > > > > > Recycle to chop up the amen into exactly 23 > > > > > > > seperate wav files, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > reconstructed my > > > > > > > > > > > > loops from there in Fruity. > > > > > > > > > > > > If I would've done that in SoundForge I'd probably > > > > > > > spend hours > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > that, instead > > > > > > > > > > > > of minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <plug> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can check it out at > > > > > > > http://www.groundmotion.com/amencompo > > > > > > > > > > > > it's the Obskuras track > > > > > > > > > > > > </plug> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > On 19 Dec 2001, at 0:31, Jurgen Baute wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't want to start an argument here, > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I see Recycle as a tool to skip all the > > > > > > > tedious manual > > > > > > > cutting > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > do in SoundForge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 99% of the cases Recycle gets it right, and > > > > > > > if it doesn't > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > just a > > > > > > > > > > > matter of > > > > > > > > > > > > > adjusting the "looppoint", > > > > > > > > > > > > > and of course, as you stated, it's a good idea > > > > > > > to use hits that > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the same "loop", or > > > > > > > > > > > > > closer together, to keep that magical flow in > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm glad a tool like Recycle exists, so I can > > > > > > > spend more time > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > more fun bits of > > > > > > > > > > > > > programming a tune. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh and btw, > > > > > > > > > > > > > good post!! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 18 Dec 2001, at 17:51, Scope - Streetbeats > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the same way most (breaks oriented) > > > > > > > producers do it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I always cut up breaks in soundforge myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) its more accurate and MOST importantly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I don't just take the hits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An explanation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll take a drum loop, say two bars in length, > > > > > > > and once I've > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Direct X/VST plugin magic in soundforge > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > wavelab......and > > > > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ive got it at the right temp.......then in > > > > > > > soundforge I'll > > > > > > > send > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole loop to sample number 1 say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then I'll cut that first beat off, and so the > > > > > > > loop is now > > > > > > > > shorter > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the full two bars, and will now begin from say > > > > > > > a hat inbetween > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kick and snare. I'll send that to sample > > > > > > > number 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then I'll cut it from the snare onwards, and > > > > > > > send this section > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > sample > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until I get to the end of the loop, the last > > > > > > > sample I send > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be an individual hit, the last one in the > > > > > > > loop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do this you ask? Well sure it takes more > > > > > > > memory in my > > > > > > > > sampler, > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > memory is cheap, and if you know how to use a > > > > > > > sampler well > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > > > > > > efficient use of that memory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The main reason for doing this, is that all of > > > > > > > the feeling in > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > break > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the movement in it, the groove if you like > > > > > > > is held in the > > > > > > > > bits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inbetween the main hits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes people refer to these as ghost hits, > > > > > > > and if its not > > > > > > > > > ghost > > > > > > > > > > > hits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then the feeling often just comes from things > > > > > > > like the decay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > characteristic of the hits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the way I use breaks, I have any individual > > > > > > > hit I want to > > > > > > > > hand, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keymapped. The difference being, if I hold the > > > > > > > key down, I get > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just that hit, but a part of the loop too..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now back in the very first instance, at or > > > > > > > before the > > > > > > > conception > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hardcore and d&b, drum loops would be taken in > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > entireity, > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stretched and laid down straight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then as time progressed you could see these > > > > > > > loops maybe being > > > > > > > > > split > > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a couple of sections etc, and slightly > > > > > > > rearranged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And b4 you know it you have producers like > > > > > > > source direct and > > > > > > > > > photek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cutting these breaks up as I described above > > > > > > > to give you > > > > > > > > ultimate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flexibility and re-arranging power. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So by laying down these various sections of > > > > > > > breaks, in > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > length > > > > > > > > > > > > > > segments or whatever - there are no rules - > > > > > > > you can very > > > > > > > quickly > > > > > > > > > build > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up different grooves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once you have that groove, you may want to > > > > > > > clean it up a > > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deconstructing any longer sections of loop you > > > > > > > are playing on > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > single > > > > > > > > > > > > > > note into smaller sections, or even individual > > > > > > > hits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When doing this, the envelope and filter > > > > > > > settings in your > > > > > > > > sampler > > > > > > > > > > > become > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crucial in obtaining the same feel as you had > > > > > > > whilst just > > > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > section of the loop on that one key. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This step is also very important for achieving > > > > > > > a fat sound, > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should have kicks, snares and hats on > > > > > > > different channels on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > desk, > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you want the hist to be as granular as > > > > > > > possible whilst retaing > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > real > > > > > > > > > > > > > > groove. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its hard to describe, but quite a simple > > > > > > > concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of producers I run into who are just > > > > > > > getting going will > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recycle or whatever and programming these > > > > > > > individual hits, and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > result often sounds staccato and interupted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's what you've got to avoid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that the whole above ranting, is only one > > > > > > > part of it, > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right sound on your breaks is awhole other > > > > > > > consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps someone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your FREE Web based email at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.m4jungle.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Streetbeats, Noir, Pi, Z-no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.streetbeats.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.m4jungle.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.noir-recordings.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.pi-recordings.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.z-no.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Carr, Timm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 18 December 2001 17:26 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Breaks Programming > > > > > > > -How? Hidden > > > > > > > > > Secret..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recycle really does help with the cutting up > > > > > > > of sampled > > > > > > > breaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Daniel Norman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Breaks Programming -How? > > > > > > > Hidden > > > > > > > > Secret..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After all the stuff about PC conflicts and > > > > > > > nastiness, I've > > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > question on good old beats production. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since peeps here can cast their minds back > > > > > > > to stunning tunes > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Source Direct / Oblivion on Streetbeats and > > > > > > > basically all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Photek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Productions, DeeJay Recordings (Pete Parsons > > > > > > > - genius), deep > > > > > > > > > stuff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc, etc - i was just wondering if anyone > > > > > > > here had ever > > > > > > > > managed > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > approach their kind of breaks programming. > > > > > > > How the f*ck do > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I only really bought my studio kit to try to > > > > > > > make intricate > > > > > > > > > breaks > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > myself like i had always heard from those > > > > > > > guys and after 2 > > > > > > > yrs > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what i'm doing, but i can't get my breaks to > > > > > > > sound like they > > > > > > > > > used to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 95.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, I haven't got Recycle for the > > > > > > > A3000v2 sampler yet > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > i'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking this is where i'm missing out. Can > > > > > > > you generally > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > > Recycle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to make to beats like on the tunes above. I > > > > > > > have processed a > > > > > > > > ton > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > breaks in Cool Edit Pro, but its during the > > > > > > > tune that i > > > > > > > can't > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get them to cut up properly and still sound > > > > > > > runnin' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using a PII 450, Logic Silver and the > > > > > > > Yamaha A3000, > > > > > > > > whereas > > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > guessing peeps used to use Ataris and early > > > > > > > Macs with Akai > > > > > > > > S3000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samplers - i know the timing of PCs, Logic > > > > > > > and the Yam > > > > > > > sampler > > > > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not be so good as the Atari and Akai, but > > > > > > > surely thats not > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > whole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > story? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking that Recycle/SCSI card might > > > > > > > be the ultimate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be cool, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The Information in this message > > > > > > > is confidential > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > legally privileged. 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