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Here's my scsi braindump from last fall when this
was asked...most of it probably still is valid info. I would add that if
yer running win2k/xp you need to install Adaptec ASPI drivers for WindowsNT
REGARDLESS of the warnings on the Adaptec site, but I just checked and there are
FINALLY OFFICIAL win2k/xp aspi drivers from Adatpec:
This is great news people, I guess Micro$oft and
Adaptec finally settled their bitch fight about MS not wanting to support
ASPI on win2k/xp (b/c MS wants the world to use their driver layer
archtechure) and Adaptec saying f0ck you MS and not officially releasing
ASPI for win2k/xp until a little while ago (I've been running winNT4 aspi
drivers on my win2k box for a while now, that was the standard solution before
this official win2k aspi)
peace
-LOS
----- Original Message -----
From: "PANTHER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [dnb-prod] EMU, SCSI and Windows 2000 > problems you say? > > Also, what SCSI cards do you recommend? > > Janne + All, > > This issue comes up a lot, so I pulled a couple emails out of my sent items > from this past June when I braindumped my Emu/win2k/SCSI setup to the list. > Read and print out. It works: > > Originally Sent 6/19/01: > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Ok Gents, here's my SCSI/EMU solution (for win) , and trust me it's been > rock solid for over a year now, transferring 120MB samples via Wavelab > everyonce in a while to make sure it's still good. > (I'm an IT/IS professional that been putting together huge SCSI/RAID systems > at work for many moons; your basic SCSI whore :) > > Overall Rule: NEVER have your EMU on your primary SCSI controller (whether > that's PCI embedded on your motherboard or a reg. PCI card). Always use a > dual card (dual bus) setup. I'll explain my rig below. > > When I say primary SCSI controller, I mean a SCSI card with a SCSI BIOS like > the Adaptec 2940, 78xx, and 29160 families. If you're SCSI card doesn't > have a SCSI BIOS, that's ok, but you really should have a good enough SCSI > card that has it's own BIOS so that you can use it to troubleshoot and > tweak, and low level format SCSI drives. > > Trust, it's a little late now, but the 29160N has a 50pin Ultra external > connector, perfect to adapt to the 50 pin Centronics on the EMU (and it's > cheaper than the 29160). But since this is your primary card, you don't > want to do this anyway. And about your USB to SCSI adapter, I would not use > it anymore and sell it. Yes it was cheap, but I know of real problems with > those, and bascially any USB to something that has a data bus that is faster > than the USB 1.0 speed (12Mbit), like USB to 100BaseT ethernet adapters > (100Mbit), is a bad idea and will crap out eventually. > > Reason: > > Technically speaking, it is ILLEGAL to have the EMU sampler on a SCSI chain > with a SCSI card. You cannot have two SCSI controllers on the same bus. > period. Meaning that the EMU is it's own SCSI controller, since it can > mount and read/write to SCSI devices on the SCSI chain. BUT Emu has > basically hacked the SCSI standard and has put in it's setup a field that > allows to you specify the SCSI ID of the SCSI card you have in your comptuer > (usually 7) so the EMU can avoid accessing that SCSI ID (I'm assuming you've > already done this Trust as well as set the SCSI ID on the EMU). When one > SCSI controller/card tries to access another SCSI controller/card on the > same SCSI chain, BANG BOOM crashish. > > Solution: > > Have a secondary, real PCI SCSI card. Make sure it DOES NOT have a SCSI > BIOS, that is, it's a dumb card that only gets accessed when Windows starts > up and starts it's asssociated SCSI drivers. This will prevent most of the > really bad SCSI crashes when the EMU tries to access the SCSI card on the > same chain as it. > > Currently I reccommend an Adaptec 2906, it's cheap (40 bucks > http://www.pricewatch.com/) and good and Adaptec. Atto's are good too, but > more expensive. > > So here's my setup, I have an old Adaptec PCI SCSI card that came with my CD > burner, and the model# escapes me right now, sorry. > > Two SCSI chains: > > Adaptec 7890 on motherboard: > :50pin <-> CDROM <-> CDRW > :68pinLVD <-> SCSIHD <-> SCSIHD > > Adaptec 2904? > :extCDROM <-> extJAZ <->extEMU > > This way my barracuda drives stay at 80MB/s (Ultra2Wide), I don't have bad > CDR burns from the EMU being on the same 50 pin chain as my cdrom and burner > (I used to until I switched to a dual SCSI config). I can dump mad big > samples to the EMU, and the EMU and my PC can access the SCSI CDROM and JAZ > drive on the 2ndary external SCSI bus. audio techie heaven. > > As you see, I don't run any of that IDE crap :) SCSI is still king of hill > for pro use. > > I have tons of SCSI connectors/adapters, I get them all in town dirt cheap > at www.stayonline.com > > peace > -los aka subnet > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > And Another on 6/19/01: > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>PC <-> external CDR <-> Yamaha A 4K > >>>I tried to burn a cd from the pc and suddenly it stopped recording (I > think because the sampler tried to mount the cdr). > > Yer right, it's the sampler locking up the bus, trying to access the cdr > when your SCSI card is accessing it. I had the exact same problem with my > EMU, every burn would lock up, and ruin the cdr. Read my other post for a > solution but basically you need true dual SCSI buses on two PCI cards. > Unfortunately your sampler will lose access to the CDR to read sample CD's, > so you need to get a another cheap external CDROM for the second SCSI bus so > the sampler has CD access: > > PC <-> external CDR > PC(2906) <-> cheap ext CDROM <-> Yamaha A 4K > > with the second SCSI chain running off an Adaptec 2906 or similar. > > I got lucky, I found a used 32x SCSI CDROM with external Centronics case for > 40 bucks at the computer show at the NC state Fairgrounds last year...a new > one costs around $150 :( > > peace > -los > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > -LOS > > --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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