Isn't
Big Boss the track name? Either way, it kicks ass!
--------Original Message-----
From: Daniel Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 13:59
To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Getting Kick Ass Samples (more unnecessary cap italizing)HiOne thing,How come peeps are still releasing tunes on Reinforced using all the classic breaks?Granted they f*ck around with them, but they are all there in their original form on the sample CDs in question. Basically it doesn't matter where the stuff comes from, its how you make it all sound in the mix and if the tune kicks ass your laughing and for a large part, who you might know in the world of music can make or break you....I think this demonstrates clearly the double standards here in the industry (hey, its actually called an industry, ha, its now a business with all the trappings and necessity of networking) - its alright to rinse out a pitched down amen/firefight e.g if you're certain well known old skoolers (how many times can you base a tune on a combination of dub sirens, Something Out There and the Raven by Ed Rush) and call it old skool cos people buy the stuff and they're established, but god forbid any new producer who is unsigned sending a demo to a label that sounds like an old tune - do you think they get a chance? Nope - sorry mate, too derivative, try a bit harder to make your own style...and if its too different - sorry, doesnt fit the label...its a fickle world unless you know a few people...good on people like Klute and Commercial Suicide (even the label name is encouraging) for pushing the boundaries (I don't know if Big Boss is a pseudonym but if he's new he rocks).Ah, feel better for that..;-)CheersDan-----Original Message-----In a message dated 4/4/02 2:43:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 13:07
To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Getting Kick Ass Samples (more unnecessary capitalizing)
I'm confused. It's okay to use a sample CD as long as it say "Hip Hop"
instead of "Drum n Bass" on the cover?
yeah, i know it seems like Im contradicting myself, but my point is that if your going to go to sample cds for breaks, using hip hop ones is the best technique- what you end up with is breaks that sound like "new" old-school breaks. Better advice is to save your money and go online to download hip hop breaks- much better than hitting a drum n bass site and ending up with the breaks everyone else does (classics aside). Im not against sample cds on the whole, just uncreative and blind use of them. If your using a Reinforced sample cd to make Reinforced-style music, well then your not contributing much to the art form now, are you? Your just dead weight, or a hobbyist at best.. ;)
What kind of irks me about the whole issue tho is that the guys at Reinforced KNOW this. What do you think those guys would ever do if they recieved a demo with one of their sounds taken straight off the CD? They'd fuckin laugh at the naivety and lack of creativity displayed, that's what. ---
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