[dnb-prod] Re: Making Super tight subs...

[Callum]

I tend to use a 50 or 60Hz Mono sine wave loaded into a sampler, with a  pretty low cutoff, and lots of resonance. I always add a bit of distortion (I�m liking daTube at the moment, one of the built in plugins for SX), I find it brings a bit more punch when the resonance is high. It gives it that rough edge too.   Compression can definitely bring out the solidity of your sub-bass, or it can absolutely maul it, if you don�t know what your doing. I totally recommend the Waves renaissance compressor, its works a treat, and isn�t too complicated. If your wanting tips on compression, or eqing, check www.prorec.com. They seem to have some decent articles.   I�d avoid using fruity�s FX, unless its all you have.   Callum   -----Original Message----- From: John Dominy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 5 October 2002 08:07 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Making Super tight subs...   http://www.acidplanet.com/lounge/lounge.asp?G=71&Rnd=140588 Is that the kind of sub you are talking about??? If so I can tell you how to get it. I start with the Junglist VSTi preset Sub Test. Then I change the sec Osc to a sine wav. Then in the VSTi I changed the Bass FX and attact. Ok now that is done, I used a lot of FX the get that sound. I used Fruity 7 band EQ preset to dance, then Fruity Compressor set to default. Then I used on the master channel the BUZZ FX adapter (load RYMIX stereo box pro) with the MAXBASS preset, then one more BUZZ FX adapter with Oomic Exsiter, Fruity 7 band EQ, and a Fruity Compressor on the Complete Master preset. I have found that keeping your basslines in the c3 to c4 range helps a lot... Peace, Zero  Nick Lankester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: OK, so I can make subs that are almost how I want them but they still sound NOWHERE near as tight as a lot of tracks I pick up on Vinyl.. I'm talking about that specific type of bass where it's really punchy and just sounds like a wall of sound rather than a bassline.. I can make that type of sound but I can't control it enough to actually mix it with the other sounds... Is it just a question of the right EQing and Compression? At the moment I generally beef up the bass at around 90hz and then take out the mud around 250... Which gives a nice deep tone to it but it lacks the punch and clarity I'm looking for.. Anyone got any advice for this? Compression tips? I think my problem may be more to do with attack and release settings than anything else.. Twiddling them seems to change the aspects of the sound that I want to correct but I can never seem to get it quite right.. Do people use distortion on these types of subs? What waveforms? I tend to use a square mixed with something else but I've got a feeling that maybe I should be using sine waves and then processing them rather than starting with a square? ? Fook knows!! I know that this is a pretty individual question as different people have different views.. Just thought I'd ask! cheers, Nick p.s. Although I'm not exactly a mastering engineer I do practice home mastering sometimes using Izotope Ozone and it does sometimes sound like it might just be the mastering that gets that extra nice sound on the subs.. But I don't know for sure either way... --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]