Not that I'm going to argue with you about your opinion - but aren't you
technically now arguing with others about theirs? Whether you like someone's
style or not... don't you still consider this a form of artistry?

If so - in that light - doesn't it seem to you a bit like you're shitting on
other peoples' expression?

I agree with you on the arranging and composition elements, because I think
far too little care is taken a lot of the time when it comes to a good deal
of mainstream tunes... but methodology is part of the art... so it's kind of
like you're telling a painter that he or she would be so much better at what
they if they didn't use their paintbrushes a certain way... feel what i'm
getting at? what's wrong with "clean phatness" anyway? just because
something utilizes a more polished approach at production technique doesn't
mean there'll be a huge lack of dynamics or even an organic feel...

I have a feeling we probably won't see eye to eye on this but i just wanted
to post back for the sake of representing the other side of the debate,
yanno?

Peace. :)

~Andy

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Old Skool Vibes


"""Whats your style?, my style is the art of jumping on the bandwagon"""

AMEN BROTHER...

Todays D&B lacks dynamics and a special thing called harmonics.  Its so
processed that all of the "natural" aspects of the sound have been cleaned
out.  The Old-Skool shit was so good because it sounded natural.  Even the
synth sounds were full  "phat" sounding.  Phatness is more about having full
harmonic content, high volume and natural dynamics than what D&B sound
systems have made it to be.  I fully agree with EQ'ing the parts to get them
to separate, and compressing parts like the bass that easily get out of
control.  But compressing everything, and EQ'ing everything just for the
sake of having that "Kleen Phatnezz" sound is just stupid.  If producers
today, used the time arranging and composing that they stupidly waste doing
these overdone technical routines maybe they could improve the music a
bit...Its all about having a phat raw sound before you even start to
mixdown...   ---

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