You're absolutely right!! I'm sorry... And I got it... Happy new year!! On 26 December 2014 at 15:58, T.J. Duchene <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 12/25/2014 9:15 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > > Can you guys believe this: > > A Desktop with 6G of RAM running Ubuntu 14.10 with systemd + pulseaudio: > > > USER PID %CPU *%MEM* VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND > userzyx 25830 0.3 *75.0* 6171772 4487884 ? S<l Dez16 46:11 > /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog > > > Pulseaudio is consuming *75% of my RAM MEMORY!!!* WTF IS THIS THING??!!! > And I'm not playing a single music! > > Let's play devil's advocate for just a moment. Don't misunderstand me. > I'm all for hating crappy code, but let's hate with good reason and > precision. > > > Why are you comparing metrics on an unstable version of the OS? Ubuntu > clearly states that the non-LTS releases are intended for developers and > early adopters only. You will have bugs when you use a version of the OS > that isn't properly vetted and released every 6 months, come what may. The > cause of this issue could be anything, including the underlying ALSA stack, > or a library that PA is linked to, maybe even memory pages requested by > your DE interface to PA. Do you have actual evidence that PA is the real > culprit, say a stack trace? > > I remember at least one case of where I traced audio problems, not to PA, > but a bad codec used by gstreamer. > > > I still do not believe that Debian was taken over by the shit that come > out of Lennart / RedHat (sorry about the bad words). And the Linux > community will put almost all the eggs into the systemd basket!! For God's > sake, what a fuck is wrong with those people??? Well, I really don't care > anymore, we have Devuan! YAY! ^_^ > > Before you blame Poettering or RedHat you should make sure that they > are actually to blame for your problem. To my knowledge, Poettering > doesn't work on PA as much these days. > > > > > I was trusting my professional life on Debian team and now, this crap... > The good of open source is that we have the power to make forks... Whew! > > Ubuntu is not Debian. Not by a long shot. Ubuntu is a version of Debian > Unstable, which should never be used on serious work. > > > > Lets include apulse and also, jackd. And *kick* pulseaudio alongside > with systemd. > > Honestly, I don't even care anymore about systemd, neither as an option, > it is impossible to trust on this thing, because of Lennart past projects > (and obvious, because of systemd terrible / creepy architecture). I still > open to uselessd + new udev, if it make easier to keep compatibility with > upstream Debian while we need to keep syncing with it. Also, I like the > idea of CGroup Process, if uselessd can achieve that (i.e, control/isolate > process using Linux CGroups), then, it is a great thing! There are space > for a new Init System and systemd is NOT it. > > > Dropping code because of the dislike one person without making sure that > you can build your entire tree first without it, is not a sensible thing to > do. It is not in the best interests of users. > > > Happy new year! :-) > > Likewise! > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > >
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