My personal opinion is that right now, working code and a deployable, reviewable distro will do significantly more for the furtherance of the project than any kind of policy statement.
On 13 March 2015 at 18:56, T.J. Duchene <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you, Jaromil, I appreciate the specific mention. > > My purpose for replying though has little to do with gratitude. While I > understand that getting Devuan "off the ground" is the absolute priority, I > do believe that most of us are not personally acquainted with D-Cent or how > it specifically applies to Devuan's situation. I think that it would be > very advantageous that a temporary statement be issued by the VUA outlining > a temporary governance of the project, with a more firm framework to be > established at a later date. It will settle a lot of questions that people > presently have, as well as preventing the diverting of attention away from > the work when new people arrive asking questions. > > It does not have to be something as extensive or nor as permanent as > Debian's Constitution or Social Contract. Just a one page statement would > do, and would probably go far in answering a lot of uncertainty. It would > also begin legitimizing Devuan to the general public, who might be looking > for some solid idea as to how far Devuan has progressed. A lot of the VUA > chatter on the list is fairly pedestrian. > > I realize that it really is not something that anyone really wants to do - > I'm sure you would rather be coding - but sometimes those sort of gestures > are important to others. > > > Thanks > t.j. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jaromil [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 7:46 AM > To: T.J. Duchene > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Dng] Devuan governance > > > dear T.J. and others, > > thanks for this thread, I think most of us and the VUAs find consensus > with the general principles that T.J and others have stated, also regarding > the pitfalls of majority voting. > > Dyne.org is professionally involved as a research organization in this EU > funded project http://d-centproject.eu (FP7/CAPS 610349) focusing on > large pilots that also include emerging political parties engaging in > direct democracy and open rating systems for reputation and trust. > > In the resources section of D-CENT you will also find extensive literature > we have already produced on theoretical and technical frameworks that can > be adopted in various situations to facilitate "decentralized citizen > engagement" and in general participation beyond the canonical framework of > XX century democracy as we know it. > > I believe the D-CENT project offers solid grounds for innovating > governance also in large GNU/Linux distributions as we hope Devuan will be > one day. At the very least I hope it will offer experimental grounds that > everyone involved will be able to engage, comment upon and adapt since all > results are licensed as free and open source. > > As Dyne.org continued involvement in Devuan is naturally following, I'm > confident we will adopt the tangible results of D-CENT in Devuan, for > instance to provide well accessible tools for drafting and deciding on > policies. > > Right now we obviously have other priorities, but this discussion > certainly look at some common direction we will take after the 1.0 release. > Ultimately I believe that the literature produced by D-CENT and the mature > tones of this discussion are even more solid than a declared "manifesto" or > "constitution" at this stage. > > ciao > > > -- > Jaromil, Dyne.org Free Software Foundry (est. 2000) We are free to share > code and we code to share freedom > Web: https://j.dyne.org Contact: https://j.dyne.org/c.vcf > GPG: 6113 D89C A825 C5CE DD02 C872 73B3 5DA5 4ACB 7D10 Confidential > communications: https://keybase.io/jaromil > > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >
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