T.J. Duchene wrote: > I am getting the general impression from on and off the list, that my > comments are not welcome here, and that my continued presence is a > distraction. Very well. I was going to give it some more thought, but I > think it would be best if I simply left the list by the end of the day. > Anything I do with Devuan will be discussed elsewhere. I'll stay on the > list long enough to finish wrap up a few comments with Jeromil, and a few > others.
Trying to understand the issue(s) here. First, T.J. is a VUA, so deserving of basic respect and welcome unless by some specific behaviors threatens the group. In the absence of official statutes, these are IMO decisions to be taken at the discression of the list owner. Second, I've noticed that the emotional tone of what T.J. writes is generally even. I don't see him getting hot, cold, bitter, etc. I don't see much use of hyperbole, sarcasm, ALL CAPS!!!!!! or other troll-worthy behaviors. So probably it is the content of what T.J. says that sets some people off, and these people are angry at being pulled into arguments with him. They can't or don't want to kill-file him, or perhaps are afraid he is spreading a malign influence on vulnerable others. Are these the people who we should satisfy? Regardless of the immediate outcome, it is worth asking what, exactly, is the problem with T.J.'s posts. I see much harder fought battles on the perl5-porters over technical decisions. People may be temporarily banned for personal attacks and certain other bad behaviors, while every effort is made to attend to the person's technical opinions. Because there are specific definitions of unacceptable conduct, the actions of the list-owner or moderators can be principled rather than essentially personal. We have few enough VUAs already that it seems wasteful to hound out qualified folks who have diverse views and happen to be prolific posters. Regards, Joel > Take care, and no hard feelings. > > T.J. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Joel Roth _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
