On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 01:16:42PM +0100, richard lucassen wrote: [cut]
> > I think Devuan will be much more succesfull as a part of Debian than as > a stand alone distro. We will be number 2067 on the list of > "NeverHeardOf" distro's. The time ROI is very low if Devuan is staying > alone IMHO. > > We need (silent) diplomacy, not anti-Debian oratory. It's all about > freedom of choice, nothing more, nothing less. If mister Poettering > suffers from some form of narcism, it is not a reason for us to behave > the same way. > > "winner of the war" has been proven to be a contraditio in terminis. > And what is exactly your plan to have Devuan somehow merged "into Debian", given that any attempt to criticise, even in a constructive manner, any systemd-related stuff is immediately labelled as "trolling" in debian-user (just to make an example)? What is the choice offered by Debian once they have decided that systemd has to be a not-unpluggable component of a Debian system? How could we dream of having a systemd-free Debian if the only alternative offered by Debian, and accepted by the TC, is systemd-o-la-muerte? If Debian hadn't started, 22 years ago, as a "NeverHeardOf" operating system, today you would not have the problem of migrating hundred of servers from Debian... My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng