On Sun, 1/31/16, Hendrik Boom <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
 To: [email protected]
 Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 11:20 AM
 
>  Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
>  To: [email protected]
>  Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 10:17 AM
> 
> Le 31/01/2016 02:18, Go Linux a écrit :
>
> >    I am just now upgrading Jessie and something wants to pull in 
> > libsystemd0.  I have no idea what.
>
>      I made some trials.
>
>      On Devuan Alpha2, libsystemd0 is required by (at least) policykit
> and gvfs.
>
>      - gvfs is necessary if you want xfce4 to show an icon on the
> desktop when you plug in a removable media.
>
>      - policykit and policykit-gnome are necessary if you want to run
> synaptic from xfce4's menu.
>
>      Didier
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> The operative qualifier being 'at least'.  Just for giggles, I tried to 
> remove it and got this thrown at me:
>
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   acpi-fakekey avidemux avidemux-plugins ca-certificates-java default-jre
>   default-jre-headless dvdstyler ffmpeg gimp gnome-orca gvfs gvfs-backends
>   gvfs-daemons libasound2-plugins libavdevice56 libespeak1 libgegl-0.2-0
>   liblavplay-2.1-0 libmikmod3 libmjpegtools-dev libpulse-dev
>   libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-sound1.2
>   libsdl-sound1.2-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian libsystemd0 libxine2-x
>   mjpegtools mplayer2 openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless packagekit
>   packagekit-tools sane-utils smplayer smplayer-l10n smplayer-themes
>   speech-dispatcher speech-dispatcher-audio-plugins vlc xine-ui
>
> What a mess!  Just how do you fix that!!  (Rhetorical question btw) 

With some significant risk, you could take out libsystemd0, let it do
its worst, and then try -- one at a time -- reinstalling the deleted
packages that you really need, one at a time.  it's just possible that
some of these packages have alternative dependencies and that they can
be made to work by installing different dependencies from wht you
originally hadx.

> -- hendriik

--------------------------------------------

hendriik and Rainer,

I'm not going to be doing anything risky atm because I'm still trying to get 
the window themes finished for the beta.

I have very few of the packages installed that are listed in # apt-cache 
rdepends libsystemd0:

# apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0
libsystemd0
Reverse Depends:
  tor
  pulseaudio
  libpulse0
  mpd
  knot-libs
  knot
  apt-cacher-ng
  weston
  transmission-daemon
  tgt
  systemd-dbg
  systemd
  python3-systemd
  libsystemd-dev
  syslog-ng-core
  stunnel4
  spice-vdagent
  sane-utils
  remctl-server
  realmd
  php5-fpm
  packagekit
  onak
  nsca-ng-server
  network-manager
  libmutter0e
  monopd
  mate-session-manager
  mate-screensaver
  light-locker
  libvirt0
  libvirt-daemon-system
  libvirt-daemon
  libvirt-clients
  libguestfs0
  lbcd
  knot-libs
  knot
  iodine
  inn
  libghc-libsystemd-journal-dev
  gvfs-daemons
  gnome-system-monitor
  gnome-shell
  gnome-session-bin
  gnome-screensaver
  gnome-logs
  gnome-disk-utility
  libgdm1
  gdm3
  fcgiwrap
  erlang-base-hipe
  erlang-base
  clamav-daemon
  cinnamon-settings-daemon
  cinnamon-session
  cinnamon-screensaver
  beanstalkd
  apt-cacher-ng
  acpi-fakekey
  libaccountsservice0
  mpd

I was rather shocked (and annoyed) to see that pulseaudio was installed with 
the default alpha2 xfce desktop and I think that is a likely source of the 
problem.  I have been checking dependencies as I install packages and I didn't 
catch any so maybe it was something in the alpha itself that spawned those deps.

golinux
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