On 170919-14:47-0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 02:47:00PM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > I'm trying not to go off topic here... But just a few more words... > > Security in systems running Devuan is on topic here. We choose Devuan > in part for security, and to be effective, we need security ll the You probably meant "all": > in part for security, and to be effective, we need security all the > way down. > > > > > > I am starting to believe computer security is an unattainable Utopia > > No, Edward. If computer security weren't attainable we wouldn't have > > Wikileaks, > > and neither would we have Edward Snowden. > > > > > No, it's not unattainable. If I ever become part of a team, we'll be using > > what > > FSF recommends (and it's what *taiidan* wrote extensively about recently on > > this mailing list: IBM Talos II Power9 processor-based server; > > Unfortunately, that comes at too high high a price for many of us. > But the cheaper systems are riddled with unexaminable firmware. Mine systems, the 10-yrs old 3 machines Abit AT8-32 and the 4 or 5 yrs old Asrock Extreme4 (also some 3 machines), both model MBO's are AMD64-based, they are of that unexaminable firmware kind as well (need to update in my topic on dev1galaxy Strange Bash under grsecurity's exec logging https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1598 with that info, more info, more likely I get an explanation on the Tab-launches-execs-frenzy events there (the frenzy there was on Asrock MBO system). > There's no good technical reason why this should be the case. We end > up resenting it but settling for it because it's what we can > afford. My above statement refers to possibly only my wishful future, some time in my remaining life. No way could I afford IBM Talos II Power9-base server at this time. But I keep dreaming and hoping...
Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
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