On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:37:22 +0100
KatolaZ <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is this really a solution? Then the most principled approach is
> probably to stop using Firefox altogether. 

Assuming you mean people should choose not to use Firefox, rather than
Devuan choosing not to provide it, I agree. I stopped using Firefox for
the same reason I stopped using KDE and Gnome and Nautilus and Kmail:
It's a pig.

> Seriously, we are not
> forced to swallow any crap they want to shovel down our throat. 

I wish more people would understand the preceding concept.

> In the
> quest to beat IE and then to chase up Chrome, Firefox has become a
> *hog*, which is able to do a thousand and more different things (in
> most cases quite badly), and also happens to render HTML pages every
> now and then.

It also has the ability to bring your whole OS to its knees.

> I have been quite happy with surf lately. 

Surf's nice if you remember the hotkeys. Don't forget using surf with
tabbed, too. Here are some docs I wrote on surf and tabbed:

http://troubleshooters.com/linux/surf.htm

> I only need firefox for the
> rare case in which I need to access a few javascript-intensive
> (crappy) websites for work reasons. And I am actively looking for an
> alternative there.

I use Chromium for that kind of thing. Yeah, it's a pig, and yeah, I
dislike the vendor that supplies it, but it's most likely to render an
arbitrary website. I quit using Palemoon after their lawyer sabre
rattling, but qupzilla does a reasonable job.

> 
> Computing does not need to be like that. Things can still be done
> properly.

I think the Devuan list is one of the few places you can say things
like the preceding two sentences.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
April 2018 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques
     of the Successful Technologist
http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
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