On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:32:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut]
> > Ahh, the preceding explains why G. Pape says runit level logs are > required on *some* daemons, but not others. If the daemon already > performs meaningful syslog() calls, there's no reason for further > logging. The logger program is needed only for those daemons not > already doing syslog() calls. The set of programs not doing syslog > calls includes all my home-grown daemons: Being a longtime daemontools > guy, I just write warnings and errors to stderr and know > daemontools/runit/s6/perp will get them into the logs. > That's was exactly the aim of my previous question :) > So Didier: I amend my question to this: Is logger the best log > mechanism to get stderr into the logs, for daemons not doing their own > syslog() calls? > > Which means on a lot of services don't get runit level logs at all. > Which matches my Void Linux system, where 10 out of 71 daemons use a > log. But some of those are pretty important: > > [root@mydesk sv]# ls -1dF */log > docker/log/ > mysqld/log/ > ndhc/log/ > nmbd/log/ > ntpd/log/ > openntpd/log/ > postgresql/log/ > smbd/log/ > sndiod/log/ > socklog-unix/log/ > [root@mydesk sv]# > The fact that some daemons do not use a custom log does not mean that they are not logging to syslog (notable examples include cron, dhclient, sshd, and many other). If a daemon is not doing its syslog proper calls, redirecting the stdout and stderr to logger could make sense (but a deamon is normally expected to close stdout and stderr as soon as it is spawned, and use syslog() calls for logging...). My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
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