On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:08:41AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:22:18AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > I'm well aware of the present limitations that make it impossible to > > let Devuan be an indipendent distribution: too little manpower behind it > > and too llittle corporate/VC support for it. It could well be that > > Devuan will never be anything more than a systemd-less-Debian, always > > behind it's parent distribution and always trying to catch up to their > > design implementations. Of course I wouldn't call this success. > > I think that instead of making Devuan independent, we should strive to kill > it. Just not in the way Lennart wants. > > By keeping all unbelievers to a ghetto, systemd proponents make way for an > excuse for putting Debian even deeper into the systemd land. Thus, widening > the gap is IMHO the worst thing you can do. > > Instead, any package diff from Debian should be considered a problem to be > fixed. Any patches, instead of removing systemd support, should make things > work both with systemd and modular init/rc systems. And be upstreamed as > soon as possible.
This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence in debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and personal insults). The truth is that too many people have a problem with other people not liking systemd and not wanting it around. So I am sorry but Devuan will stay around. HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
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