Changed the subject to a more appropriate one. On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:52:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 18/11/18 at 13:36, Rowland Penny wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100 > > Alessandro Selli <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 18/11/18 at 10:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > >> > >>> The most important aspect here is: "has been". Its in the past > >>> already and it does not determine the future. > >> Maybe not. If my English Grammar is still worth the schoolbook > >> paper it was printed on, "has been" is the Present Continuous Tense, > >> that is used "to express the idea that something is happening now, at > >> this very moment. It can also be used to show that something is not > >> happening now." > >> > >> So, the main use is for "something is happening now", sometimes for > >> "something [that] is not happening now." > >> > > Nope, your schoolbook paper wasn't worth the paper it was written on ;-) > > > All right, I checked it and indeed I remembered wrong. The Present > Continuous Tense if formed by the Present Tense of "be" followed by a > Present Participle. In this case we have the Present Tense of "have" > ("has") followed by the Present Participle of "be" ("been"). Which > means that KatolaZ used the Present Perfect tense, which is used to > express "an action happened at an unspecified time before now."
What we have here is the passive perfect tense >> This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence in >> debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and personal > The most important aspect here is: "has been". Its in the past already > and it does not determine the future. 'has been' is a perfect tense for 'to be'. Combined with the *past* participle of "cheered", it makes a passive verb. > > > So you and Rowland are right, and I hope the sneering against > Devuaners really is something of the past. > > Tense. 😉 > > > > 'has been' denotes something that has happened e.g 'That guy is an has > > been' or 'the book has been found'. > > > > Your 'schoolbook' is probably where the misuse of 'since' comes from > > as well. > > > Oh well, it is indeed a very old one. But I'm reluctant to dump it > into the waste paper bin. I too am a traditionalist, lazy grandpa who > resists any change whatever, who just dreams to be a kid again. > > > > Greetings, > > > > -- > Alessandro Selli <[email protected]> > VOIP SIP: [email protected] > Chiave firma e cifratura PGP/GPG signing and encoding key: > BA651E4050DDFC31E17384BABCE7BD1A1B0DF2AE > > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
