Le 22/11/2018 à 17:02, KatolaZ a écrit :
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:28:55PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 22/11/2018 à 13:42, terryc a écrit :
IME, absolutely nothing in real life works that way.
Do you dump all your clothes into one big bin or store them by say
type?
     Files are stored in different directories, that's it for clean
bookkeeping. Making these directories mountpoint does not add any sort of
ordering. Only the impression they are more secure. My opinion is that
impression is only an impression. Am I allowed to express my opinion without
causing flames?

Sure you are, Didier, as is anybody else, and we should all strive for
this to remain the norm here :)


    Dear KatolaZ, My question wasn't intended to you, though I was pretty sure you would answer and I knew your answer :-)

    I've observed people opposed to the merge feel very upset. I understand one doesn't like, in general, reforms which don't make things better and are forced on people, reforms the motivation of which is weak or obscure.

    Maybe there is a motivation from the darkside (Systemd), but there is also a clear but weak motivation, for the sake of making the filesystem hierarchy more sensible: /usr really means "the user's disk". This motivation being weak, the community has postponed the merge for decades, and the decision to eventually do it may well have been triggered by Systemd, or simply because Systemd people like to change everything and they somehow have the control.

    In the mean time people have found more or less good reasons to make /usr a mountpoint. What I'm advocating is: this hasn't any consequence for the safety of the OS and it hasn't anymore consequences on the ability to boot; it's mostly a change in habits.

    The merge is being forced on us, but the existence of /usr has been also forced on us. Moreover, even if it has been triggered by Systemd people, the merge has been pushed for a long time by other people, and with a clear and honest motivation. For a dozen years I've seen this merge as a configuration option in Busybox. If it can be made optional in Devuan, that's great, but I think it doesn't deserve such a radical opposition.

            Didier


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