On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 20:20:15 +0800, Brad wrote in message > <a02bce2c-6bee-2fad-875e-336020fa9...@fnarfbargle.com>: > > > On 6/8/21 5:12 pm, Andrzej Peszynski wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 06.08.2021 06:25, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > > >> > > >> Why do you even need/want libvirt? I have several machines which > > >> run qemu guests just using simple bash scripts to bring them up > > >> (and all the bash script is there for is to hold the command line > > >> parameters). I like libvirt and virt-manager for configuring and > > >> customising the guests, but at the end of the day all that is is a > > >> fancy front end to qemu. > > > <snip> > > >> If you are stripping the guts out of libvirt, why use it in the > > >> first place? > > > Brad, thanks a million! Learning is fun especially for a "apt > > > install" man as I am. I am looking now at how I can simplify all > > > this (may be stripping parts of QEMU too?), to keep running, and > > > handle my configurations and resources binding. In the end, all > > > what I need is executing in isolated ring the ELF of dozen of (not > > > trusted) proxies, servers and libraries + resources balancing + > > > isolated filesystems + sockets. > > > > > > From the other side, I think that the Type 1 hypervisor for desktop > > > is also interesting thing, It's very tempting to have windowed > > > multimachine with realtime switch capability. > > ..I get the idea that Andrzej and I are looking for Brad's kinda bare > metal hypervisor Devuan install? > We might come up with minimal net-install size install image as an > alternative to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qubes_OS , only without > systemd and based on Devuan. > > ..in Debian and Devuan we often have package conflict that means hold > back upgrades or ditch good software we'd like to keep, those conflicts > disappears when we can contain each of those old or new things in e.g. > a vm.
Isn't this the kind of problem the Nix package manager obviates? Wihout requiring anything as heavy as hypervisors? -- hendrik _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng