On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:04 AM, Paul Vixie <[email protected]> wrote:
> at which point it's easier to fix source address validation and make THAT 
> universal. which we already know can't be done.

Don't confuse "won't" with "can't". It absolutely can be done. It won't be done 
because the carriers see profit in laziness, and see no profit in stopping 
criminals. In fact, I would argue that it could be done within a month net-wide 
if the carriers were motivated to do it. Sadly, it will probably take a large 
scale event that makes large carriers implement it completely in defense of 
their own networks to force the small carriers to get around to it. 

...not dissing small carriers. I know many who implement it completely. It's 
the large carriers who tend to whine the most, but they are also the ones with 
a board of directors who could demand it -- thus, they are the place where the 
elbow could be placed.
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