On 27 Mar 2015, at 20:56, Warren Kumari <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was saying is that we don't really need to reach *every* recursive,
> whatever we do manage to do will be better than the current position.

I disagree Warren. What's wrong with the status quo? Why can't it be left to 
the discretion of each manager of a resolving server to make their own 
decisions about when and why to flush their caches? It's not clear to me that 
there is a problem that needs fixing here. Discussions of possible solutions 
seems to be putting the cart before the horse.

OK, George said he wants a pony. I'd like to see a clear problem statement. I 
have a feeling we're both going to be disappointed. :-)

> Sure, a fully awesome, all shining, all dancing cache flush solution
> that can securely flush all caches everywhere would be best, but until
> this comes along, something, anything really, is better than posting
> on DNS-Operations....

Doing nothing from a protocol perspective looks to be just fine and quite 
probably the Right Thing To Do. YMMV.

I wonder too about the potential security and stability implications of this 
all-singing, all-dancing cache flushing solution. For example suppose 
organisation A's forwarding only servers get resolving service from 
organisation B. How would B's servers forward the received flush requests to 
A's? Suppose a botnet floods resolving servers with cache flush requests to 
make those servers then hammer authoritative servers. Cache flush requests to 
delete the metadata for the root would make things rather interesting too.


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