On Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:44:07 UTC Adam Vallee wrote: > So what your admitting here, with your interesting choice of Words, is that > Cogent is NOT in fact a Tier 1 provider. In the traditional definition of a > "FreeNet" where a Tier 1 provider peers with all other Tier 1 providers in > a shared cost model.
please don't put words in my mouth; they may not fit. > That's good to know, because in fact our experience is that their service > doesn't compare to Telia, HE, and GTT, and I was finally able to convince > our NA Team to dump Cogent at Contract Renewal. Their routes are longer and > have higher latency. your business, your rules. > And we now announce the C-Root ASN and IP prefixes to our internal network, > in effect running our own C-Root. your network, your rules. > ... > > Thank you for sharing. to wit: > On Wed., Oct. 16, 2019, 10:27 a.m. Paul Vixie, <p...@redbarn.org> wrote: > > a late followup. > > > > Rubens Kuhl wrote on 2019-10-12 13:50: > > > ... > > > > > > If someone from Cogent is reading, that's their opportunity to step > > > up and provide at least a partial feed to OARC. > > > > i'm part of the cogent c-root team, and i was a co-founder of dns-oarc. > > we have hosted elements of the dns-oarc project at cogent before, and we > > are working with the dns-oarc engineering team to make our > > ipv6-addressed c-root server visible to their measurement systems. > > > > > Unless they want to do the better thing which is to end this peering > > > war and stop messing IPv6 Internet... > > > > when i succeeded dave rand as cto of abovenet in Y2K or so, we had a > > completely open peering policy -- we even peered with customers, if they > > wanted a second BGP connection so they didn't have to pay by bit-volume > > when exchange traffic with our other customers. this made business sense > > to the company and its employees and investors and customers. > > > > hurricane and cogent are also businesses, each having employees and > > investors and customers. they are each doing what makes sense to them. > > this is not a "peering war" by any stretch of the vocabulary. cogent > > does not have a completely open peering policy, and while hurricane has > > transit for its ipv4 network, it lacks transit for its ipv6 network. > > > > their networks, their rules. > > > > -- > > P Vixie -- Paul _______________________________________________ dns-operations mailing list dns-operations@lists.dns-oarc.net https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-operations