Hi Meir- I have had some dialog with your CEO on this related to the introduction of this TLD and its subdomains and the PSL PR expediting for https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/pull/1595. I volunteer time to maintain the PSL and I did bump the ישראל, אקדמיה.ישראל, ישוב.ישראל , צהל.ישראל , ממשל.ישראל namespaces to the front of the queue and invested time to get that pushed and merged.
He explained the delay in launch that the ISOC had to do related to this, which is really regrettable. I spend a tremendous amount of time attempting to spread the word about the PSL to ccTLDs and gTLDs to help with awareness, at TechDay during ICANN meetings, the Registry Operators Workshop (ROW), regional ccTLD associations and a variety of conferences so that ccTLD administrators are aware of it. Crucially, around 2019 I spent a good amount of time with Paul Hoffman (who you see here in thread) from the ICANN Office of the CTO (OCTO) in authoring a document that the IANA would furnish to ccTLDs/gTLDs upon their delegation to the root. This was another proactive effort to spread information about the PSL and the reach it has in bridging the divide, and ccTLDs were to receive this so that they were informed proactively about the Public Suffix List. Quick question for you. *Was the PSL information provided to you by the IANA at delegation last year*? It was a lot of proactive effort and time investment on our parts and it could have prevented the current timing matter being faced. The PSL is a catalog. Full stop. We have zero ability to direct how it is used, what changes someone may make (add/remove entries), frequency of updates or product roadmaps. In the case of IOS/MACOS, Safari updates are typically included with general OS updates so they are less frequent. The Universal Acceptance direction that you're being steered to is something that really does not like to give any attention or credence to the reach of the PSL and what it does to reduce the aggravation you are experiencing, but there might be some connections to browser contacts that could be helpful. And you're likely to meet others that experience some of the challenges that are unknown unknowns in navigating IDN interoperability. Candidly, there is a massive chasm between the world of software and solution developers and the world of ICANN, and the PSL is a rope bridge between them that has been in place. Devs have zero tolerance for bureaucracy and candidly there is not a place that exists within the ICANN multistakeholder model that has any amount of benefits to offset the friction that participation would represent (costs, time, obligations, etc). Browsers (etc users of PSL) voluntarily include it, give or take, at their pace. Can't force anything on them, and straying from our status quo has some of them talking about splintering off their own. So imagine having to hunt the resource down being multiplied by the number of browsers, each with their own process, and you might see how this has been left in its current state. -Jothan On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 6:44 PM Hugo Salgado <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Meir. It might also be good to write to the uasg discussion list ( > https://uasg.tech/). I don't know if they'll have contacts with apple, > but this topic fits right in with their "universal acceptance" goal. I > remember a similar case a few years ago, and I'm sure they'll be interested > in hearing about your case and pushing for a coordinated solution in the > future, within icann. > > Regards, > > Hugo > > > On August 26, 2022 8:11:50 PM GMT-04:00, Meir Kraushar via dns-operations < > [email protected]> wrote: >> >> ------------------------------ >> dns-operations mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-operations >> >> _______________________________________________ > dns-operations mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-operations >
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