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Joe

Sorry about the email format - Outlook has a mind of its own at times :(

We have been trying to contact the various companies our clients are having 
issues with. I've personally spent hours trying to get Ticketmaster to escalate 
my query to somebody with a $clue, but got stuck in their CS system from hell :(

The PTR records are fine - many of them have been there for many years. 
Somebody else pointed out to me offlist that some are missing A records, so 
we'll address that.
We've checked the IPs against blacklists and nothing is showing that we can 
find.
While *some* of the IP ranges we are using might be "secondhand" several of 
them are shiny and new and were never used prior to them allocated to us. Of 
the "used" ranges none were problematic and some come from another Irish ISP 
that has been consumed via M+A (not by us!).

If you or anyone else can suggest mailing lists where I might stumble across 
people who work for some of these companies please do let me know - it'd be 
appreciated.

Regards

Michele













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From: Joe Abley <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday 23 November 2022 13:55
To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dns-operations] PTR Records for Broadband Network?

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Hi Michele,

On Nov 23, 2022, at 07:46, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via dns-operations 
<[email protected]> wrote:

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Hmm :-)

Many many moons ago we setup the PTR records for our network using a template 
that clearly flagged that the IPs were static and used for hosting.

The result was that the IP 185.97.239.13 would end up with a PTR record of 
239-13.colo.sta.blacknight.ie

Fast forward to 2022 and we now offer broadband to both businesses and 
consumers, but unfortunately some streaming services and others are blocking 
access. So our users have issues with Disney+, All4, Netflix and Ticketmaster 
to name but a few examples. One of the issues appears to be the PTR records.

It might be worth reaching out to some of the people you know your customers 
are struggling with specifically and seeing what they are looking for. The 
presence and functional correctness of PTR records is known to be used as one 
heuristic for e-mail abuse ops; I hadn't heard of it for things like Netflix 
but what do I know?

I assume these PTR records you have made are correctly published. Have you 
checked that the PTR targets (the 239-13.colo.sta.blacknight.ie name and its 
friends) themselves resolve back to the right address?

Are the address ranges you are using for your customers tainted through some 
prior abuse, e.g. by some other organisation that used to use them? Do they 
appear on any of the usual blacklists?

I have seen informal guidance to access providers in the past on what naming 
conventions are useful. I can't seem to find any of them right now but your 
naming scheme does not seem ridiculous. I would be surprised if that's the 
problem.

You might want also to ask this question on the kind of more general lists that 
access and content providers hang out on.


Joe



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