On 2/23/2015 5:36 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:
My first comment is why are you doing this? Is there a real problem here or are we in knee jerk mode? I liken the DNS system to the phone book. Just because I open the phone book at a particular page does not mean that I am going to call any of the numbers on that page.Dear DPRIVE WG,The authors of draft-ietf-dprive-problem-statement have indicated that they believe that the document is ready, and have asked for Working Group Last Call. The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-problem-statement/ This document was discussed at the DPRIVE meeting at IETF91 - some notes here: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dprive/minutes?item=minutes-91-dprive.html The document has also been worked on in GitHub, here: https://github.com/bortzmeyer/my-IETF-work It has also received a fair bit of on-list discussion. Please review this draft to see if you think it is ready for publication and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. Even if you previously expressed support for the document (e.g during adoption), please respond to the WGLC showing that you still support it. This WGLC ends Mon 09-Mar-2015. In addition, to satisfy RFC 6702 ("Promoting Compliance with Intellectual Property Rights (IPR)"): Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-dprive-problem-statement? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669, and 5378 for more details.) Thanks, Warren Kumari (as DPRIVE WG co-chair)
In the draft, the example of Alcoholics Anonymous is used. Making a DNS inquiry about AA does not necessarily mean that I will visit the AA site. Even if I do, my interest may be no more than idle curiosity, or I may be looking for information for me for others.
In this day and age I may search for something on the WEB, and as a result visit a WEB page which may (probably will) have third party advertising. In order to render the page, including the advertisements, all sorts of data may be needed, which will result in many DNS inquiries, some of that advertising may be offensive to some. But that does not mean that I am visiting such sites.
The problem of surveillance does not occur when you open the phone book, nor does it occur when you run your finger down the page. It only begins when you dial a number!
-- John Allen KLaM ------------------------------------------ You are off the edge of the map, mate. Here there be monsters!
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