On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:16 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2/23/2015 5:36 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > >> Dear DPRIVE WG, >> >> The authors of draft-ietf-dprive-problem-statement have indicated that >> they believe that the document is ready, and have asked for Working >> Group Last Call. >> >> The draft is available here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dprive-problem-statement/ >> >> This document was discussed at the DPRIVE meeting at IETF91 - some >> notes here: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dprive/minutes?item=minutes- >> 91-dprive.html >> >> The document has also been worked on in GitHub, here: >> https://github.com/bortzmeyer/my-IETF-work >> It has also received a fair bit of on-list discussion. >> >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is ready for >> publication and send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >> Even if you previously expressed support for the document (e.g during >> adoption), please respond to the WGLC showing that you still support >> it. >> >> This WGLC ends Mon 09-Mar-2015. >> >> >> In addition, to satisfy RFC 6702 ("Promoting Compliance with >> Intellectual Property Rights (IPR)"): >> Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to >> draft-ietf-dprive-problem-statement? If so, has this IPR been >> disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879, >> 3669, and 5378 for more details.) >> >> Thanks, >> Warren Kumari >> (as DPRIVE WG co-chair) >> >> >> My first comment is why are you doing this? Is there a real problem here > or are we in knee jerk mode? I liken the DNS system to the phone book. Just > because I open the phone book at a particular page does not mean that I am > going to call any of the numbers on that page. > > In the draft, the example of Alcoholics Anonymous is used. Making a DNS > inquiry about AA does not necessarily mean that I will visit the AA site. > Even if I do, my interest may be no more than idle curiosity, or I may be > looking for information for me for others. > > In this day and age I may search for something on the WEB, and as a result > visit a WEB page which may (probably will) have third party advertising. In > order to render the page, including the advertisements, all sorts of data > may be needed, which will result in many DNS inquiries, some of that > advertising may be offensive to some. But that does not mean that I am > visiting such sites. > > The problem of surveillance does not occur when you open the phone book, > nor does it occur when you run your finger down the page. It only begins > when you dial a number! >
In East Germany it began when you asked to look at the telephone directory. It was a state secret. Every call to directory inquiries was logged. Sorry but your assumption as to what is and is not a security concern here is woefully inadequate.
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