On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Simon Josefsson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Phillip Hallam-Baker <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > Any DNSvNext protocol MUST work in 100% of network situations where DNS
> > works or else it has 0% of being adopted.
>
> That's simply impossible.  A goal like that will just distract us.


It is completely possible as I have done that.



> > Google is currently working on HTTP over UDP to shave a second of page
> load
> > times. This group is working is proposing to move the most latency
> critical
> > interaction from UDP to TLS.
>
> Some people here pointed out that the initial goal is for stub
> resolving, which is not latency critical.  I believe this point can be
> made more clear in the documents and in the discussion.  One easily gets
> the idea that this is about Internet-wide DNS.  Confusing these two
> use-cases is bad.
>

Stub resolving is totally latency critical. Go talk to some folk who work
on browsers.



> Personally, for stub-resolving I don't see the need for having two
> mechanisms (upgrade-TLS and port-TLS).  Just standardize one of them and
> be done with it.
>
> /Simon
>
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