Moin!

On 20 Mar 2020, at 14:57, Paul Hoffman wrote:

On Mar 20, 2020, at 12:42 AM, Ralf Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
Well DNS over UDP has better performance characteristics than DoT and DoH.
That is not up for discussion.

Yes it is, and efforts to stop other WG participants (particularly those with collected data) from discussing it are not appropriate.
I don’t know what to say. Are we at the point were we create alternate facts? If the hardware and the location of the client and server are identical it is impossible to get more throughput, better latency using DoT or DoH, then DNS over UDP/53 given two similar written servers. Sure there are stuff like special chips to enhance that, but if you would do the same to regular DNS you could increase that even more. For the same effort it is impossible to get the same throughput and latency simply because there is more work to do.

Now there are other, more service oriented tests that again measure something else (mostly network latency and cache behaviour), where stuff is up for discussion, but for the performance case I described, which matters to people who have to buy and operate these servers, I don’t see how we can get the same bang for the buck for DoT/DoH.

So long
-Ralf
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Ralf Weber

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