On 30 Jun 2015, at 13:41, Ralf Weber <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is this considered bad practice now? Was there a policy change I missed?

Hi Ralf. AFAICT there has never been any policy in this area: that's another 
rat-hole we don't need to explore for now.

The NCC has from time to time registered domain names which were felt to be 
either a good idea or potentially useful at some point. Sometimes those choices 
have in hindsight turned out to be misguided. For others the domain names have 
long outlived their usefulness. So it's reasonable for the NCC to do some 
housekeeping and get rid of unwanted or unneeded cruft. It's good operational 
practice.

Consulting the WG about that is also to be welcomed, even though the WG should 
not micro-manage operational matters. Romeo's saying "Here are some domains 
that deserve to die. Any objections?".

If you or anyone else has objections to this approach, please say so and give 
good reason(s) for your PoV.

>> We now plan to release the following domains, which are not being
>> actively used by the RIPE NCC:
>> 
>> ripe-ncc.org
>> ripe-ncc.com
>> ripe-ncc.net
>> ripencc.com
>> ripencc.net
>> ripencc.org
>> ripelabs.net
>> ripen.cc
>> ripe.int
>> ipv6roadshow.com
>> ipv6roadshow.net
>> ipv6roadshow.org
> So we are talking about 12 domains. What is the hassle of keeping them?

Adding cruft for cruft's sake creates needless hassles and overhead. We should 
all be wary about asking the NCC to make open-ended commitments and at the very 
least review those sorts of requests/decisions from time to time. From that 
perspective, getting a sense from the WG about these domain names is a good 
thing.

> I'm pretty "confident" the new owners won't do as good things with it
> as the RIPE NCC.

Who cares? If the domains no longer serve any useful purpose or have no 
worthwhile affiliation with the NCC or the RIPE community, there seems to be 
little point in keeping them. Or as was discussed a few months ago, there would 
be no point rolling over their DLV keys. Since DLV is going away, that may well 
be the catalyst to give some of these crufty domains a one-way ticket to 
Dignitas.

Holding on to these domains and continuing to maintain them "just because" 
seems unwise. ICANN already has ripe.<gTLD> on a reserved list so there is no 
chance of them going to an impostor.

Personally speaking, I do not like open-ended commitments which are just 
allowed to drift. In this case, nobody appears to be sure why these domains 
need to exist any more or have a good reason to hold on to them. Romeo's asking 
the WG if there are good reasons, just in case there are factors which have 
been overlooked. If anyone knows of such considerations, please speak up.


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